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Ref Watch 2017/18; A fraternity of dunces
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The ref should stop play for a head injury. End of story.

If Ajer had been unconscious and had problems as a result of a delay in getting medical help, Madden would have been in serious bother.

While the laws of the game state simply that the ref has to stop the match if a player is seriously injured in his opinion, concussion is specifically listed in the FIFA guidelines as a serious injury.

Celtic should be complaining about this one, he's put a player at quite significant risk.

Stopping play for a more minor injury does bring into question whether a team would be disadvantaged, but that's a different situation.
Where does it say the ref should stop play for an injury?

have you read the laws of the game?
• stops play if a player is seriously injured and ensures that the player is removed from the field of play


Have you?
i meant head injury.
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The ref should stop play for a head injury. End of story.

If Ajer had been unconscious and had problems as a result of a delay in getting medical help, Madden would have been in serious bother.

While the laws of the game state simply that the ref has to stop the match if a player is seriously injured in his opinion, concussion is specifically listed in the FIFA guidelines as a serious injury.

Celtic should be complaining about this one, he's put a player at quite significant risk.

Stopping play for a more minor injury does bring into question whether a team would be disadvantaged, but that's a different situation.
for a 10 second delay? Doubt it.
Doubt it?

Is that 10 seconds of a fitba match worth it? Player safety is paramount, or should be. Not Aberdeen scoring.
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Your argument is that a guy going down with a bleeding skull after a clash of heads was correctly not deemed to be potentially serious by Madden. How can I debate against that.
tbf ajer is coveirng his head so im not sure madden can see that.

the paranoia from some in here is frightening.
As is the stupidity.
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26 Feb 2018, 12:55 PM
The ref should stop play for a head injury. End of story.

If Ajer had been unconscious and had problems as a result of a delay in getting medical help, Madden would have been in serious bother.

While the laws of the game state simply that the ref has to stop the match if a player is seriously injured in his opinion, concussion is specifically listed in the FIFA guidelines as a serious injury.

Celtic should be complaining about this one, he's put a player at quite significant risk.

Stopping play for a more minor injury does bring into question whether a team would be disadvantaged, but that's a different situation.
Where does it say the ref should stop play for an injury?

have you read the laws of the game?
Yes and clearly you haven't.

Law 5, the eighth Power and Duty of a referee.

Page 21 of the latest edition, about halfway down the page.

Away and read it yourself, then come back with your shine box and we can resume your lesson for the day.
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What I would say about Madden yesterday is he got the two red cards - or in Lustig's case two yellows - spot on. The commentator said on TV when Cosgrove came on that he was a "Jayden Stockley type of player", it didn't take long for him to prove that to be the case. Another useless lump of a striker who is more inclined to nail opponents than score goals, in other words. Keep them coming, McInnes.
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26 Feb 2018, 12:55 PM
The ref should stop play for a head injury. End of story.

If Ajer had been unconscious and had problems as a result of a delay in getting medical help, Madden would have been in serious bother.

While the laws of the game state simply that the ref has to stop the match if a player is seriously injured in his opinion, concussion is specifically listed in the FIFA guidelines as a serious injury.

Celtic should be complaining about this one, he's put a player at quite significant risk.

Stopping play for a more minor injury does bring into question whether a team would be disadvantaged, but that's a different situation.
Where does it say the ref should stop play for an injury?

have you read the laws of the game?
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Injuries
• stops play if a player is seriously injured and ensures that the player is removed from the field of play.


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26 Feb 2018, 12:55 PM
The ref should stop play for a head injury. End of story.

If Ajer had been unconscious and had problems as a result of a delay in getting medical help, Madden would have been in serious bother.

While the laws of the game state simply that the ref has to stop the match if a player is seriously injured in his opinion, concussion is specifically listed in the FIFA guidelines as a serious injury.

Celtic should be complaining about this one, he's put a player at quite significant risk.

Stopping play for a more minor injury does bring into question whether a team would be disadvantaged, but that's a different situation.
Where does it say the ref should stop play for an injury?

have you read the laws of the game?
Yes and clearly you haven't.

Law 5, the eighth Power and Duty of a referee.

Page 21 of the latest edition, about halfway down the page.

Away and read it yourself, then come back with your shine box and we can resume your lesson for the day.
as i said, i meant head injury. read the thread again and iv already stated theirs nothing stating you stop play for a head injury, only for a serious injury.
Edited by CelticMad123, 26 Feb 2018, 01:08 PM.
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Yes and clearly you haven't.

Law 5, the eighth Power and Duty of a referee.

Page 21 of the latest edition, about halfway down the page.

Away and read it yourself, then come back with your shine box and we can resume your lesson for the day.
as i said, i meant head injury. read the thread again and iv already theirs nothing stating you stop play for a head injury, only for a serious injury.
There are no laws for a head injury because apparently when they were writing them they didn't think anyone would be obtuse enough to need explicit differentiation between a serious injury and an injury to your skull.
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as i said, i meant head injury. read the thread again and iv already theirs nothing stating you stop play for a head injury, only for a serious injury.
There are no laws for a head injury because apparently when they were writing them they didn't think anyone would be obtuse enough to need explicit differentiation between a serious injury and an injury to your skull.
lol did you right the book?

Anytime a player has any sort of injury to the head means it serious?
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• stops play if a player is seriously injured and ensures that the player is removed from the field of play


Have you?
i meant head injury.
You didn't say that though.

I've already covered this, but I'll repeat myself for the hard of thinking.

While the laws don't mention head injury specifically, it's about a serious injury. Concussion is listed as a serious injury in FIFA's guidelines however.

Concussion is defined in medical terms as mild traumatic brain injury from an external mechanical force with an associated transient impairment of neurological function.

A head injury which causes loss of consciousness, double vision, dizziness or even just dazes someone to the point of collapse (like the one Ajer took) falls into that definition.
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There are no laws for a head injury because apparently when they were writing them they didn't think anyone would be obtuse enough to need explicit differentiation between a serious injury and an injury to your skull.
lol did you right the book?

You certainly didn't.
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What I would say about Madden yesterday is he got the two red cards - or in Lustig's case two yellows - spot on. The commentator said on TV when Cosgrove came on that he was a "Jayden Stockley type of player", it didn't take long for him to prove that to be the case. Another useless lump of a striker who is more inclined to nail opponents than score goals, in other words. Keep them coming, McInnes.
McInnes has bought really poorly this season.
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lol did you right the book?<br /><br />
You certainly didn't.
😂😂
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i meant head injury.
You didn't say that though.

I've already covered this, but I'll repeat myself for the hard of thinking.

While the laws don't mention head injury specifically, it's about a serious injury. Concussion is listed as a serious injury in FIFA's guidelines however.

Concussion is defined in medical terms as mild traumatic brain injury from an external mechanical force with an associated transient impairment of neurological function.

A head injury which causes loss of consciousness, double vision, dizziness or even just dazes someone to the point of collapse (like the one Ajer took) falls into that definition.
yes it was a missed word when typing ffs.

he wasnt concussed and he didnt collapse. he falls down.
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You certainly didn't.
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oh very good i missed a word that i had already mentioned 50 times in previous arguments.

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oh very good i missed a word that i had already mentioned 50 times in previous arguments.

Write you are.
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oh very good i missed a word that i had already mentioned 50 times in previous arguments.

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What I would say about Madden yesterday is he got the two red cards - or in Lustig's case two yellows - spot on. The commentator said on TV when Cosgrove came on that he was a "Jayden Stockley type of player", it didn't take long for him to prove that to be the case. Another useless lump of a striker who is more inclined to nail opponents than score goals, in other words. Keep them coming, McInnes.
yeah got the big decisions correct.

lustig challenge was ridiculous when hes already on a yellow.
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You didn't say that though.

I've already covered this, but I'll repeat myself for the hard of thinking.

While the laws don't mention head injury specifically, it's about a serious injury. Concussion is listed as a serious injury in FIFA's guidelines however.

Concussion is defined in medical terms as mild traumatic brain injury from an external mechanical force with an associated transient impairment of neurological function.

A head injury which causes loss of consciousness, double vision, dizziness or even just dazes someone to the point of collapse (like the one Ajer took) falls into that definition.
yes it was a missed word when typing ffs.

he wasnt concussed and he didnt collapse. he falls down.
How doesn't he fit the definition of a concussion?

I've already laid out how he does and believe me, I know what I'm talking about.
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yes it was a missed word when typing ffs.

he wasnt concussed and he didnt collapse. he falls down.
How doesn't he fit the definition of a concussion?

I've already laid out how he does and believe me, I know what I'm talking about.
well im going to agree to disagree with you in this case.
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