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Ref Watch 2017/18; A fraternity of dunces
Topic Started: 5 Aug 2017, 03:56 PM (201,391 Views)
justinjest
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the foul on KT in the second half - he had clearly headed the ball away before the Thistle player rammed into him - both layers down injured, Thistle player pretending to be injured to avoid being booked - after a suitable lapse, Thistle player gets up and runs back, no apparent injury and no treatment - ref called him over and had a word with him - even the Thistle player knew it was a yellow, which is why he stayed down,
Foul after foul going unpunished - how many fouls were committed by Thistle players going through the back of our players - used to be a certain yellow, now not even a warning. Probably the worst was the foul on Ntcham near the end when the Thistle player just took him out after the ball had been played - just a deliberate kick on the back of Ntcham's legs, ref standing 2 yards away and no card
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10 Feb 2018, 09:25 PM
Only saw the Lustig one in real time at the game but to be honest it looked like a 50/50 challenge with Lustig unlucky to get a bit of an injury.
Could be wrong though. Looking forward to seeing on tv.
Agree ... I'm in the Main stand ... Haven't seen a replay, but I thought it was a 50/50
Edited by timsRus, 11 Feb 2018, 01:09 AM.
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justinjest
11 Feb 2018, 12:24 AM
the foul on KT in the second half - he had clearly headed the ball away before the Thistle player rammed into him - both layers down injured, Thistle player pretending to be injured to avoid being booked - after a suitable lapse, Thistle player gets up and runs back, no apparent injury and no treatment - ref called him over and had a word with him - even the Thistle player knew it was a yellow, which is why he stayed down,
Foul after foul going unpunished - how many fouls were committed by Thistle players going through the back of our players - used to be a certain yellow, now not even a warning. Probably the worst was the foul on Ntcham near the end when the Thistle player just took him out after the ball had been played - just a deliberate kick on the back of Ntcham's legs, ref standing 2 yards away and no card
I totally agree with your points but the worst thing to me is the policy among every other team in the league of booting eff out of Kiernan Tierney. This is Scotland's most natural talent to emerge for a generation and what's the script? Go out and batter into him cos he'll never give you the satisfaction of cliping to the MIB who'd probably not give a eff anyway. One of these days KT will get done once too often and he'll batter shampooe out one of these hammer throwing trolls, and i for one will cheer every dig. :angry:
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Posted on the post-match thread but the assaults on KT that are going unpunished are now reaching a ridiculous level. My dad who is in his 70s texted me when I was at the game today to say that he hasn't seen a Celtic player get this treatment since Jinky.
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There was a foul in the second half, Ntcham I think it was on. Thistle player just on as a sub, literally the first thing he did was foul. Just booted Ntcham. Ball well gone and a clean boot at our player! Was worthy of a red, no thought of anything else but to boot the player!! It’s actually sad how it’s being ignored and yet you get goats like Craig Levin saying our captain gets away with this, that and the other!
What do you do? Speak up, or just keeping winning and stick it to them?
Somebody will over step it soon and one of our players will get hurt badly!
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Brendan must have some patience putting up with this week in week out .
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I may be forgetting one, but given the number of very very poor tackles that we have seen at Parkhead, is Senderos over a year ago the last player to get a red card at home against us? Even that was for a second yellow handball.
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I thought the constant fouls on Dembele were a disgrace, yet when he attempted to fend a player off it was always a foul by him....blatant cheating
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southern bhoy
11 Feb 2018, 09:35 AM
I may be forgetting one, but given the number of very very poor tackles that we have seen at Parkhead, is Senderos over a year ago the last player to get a red card at home against us? Even that was for a second yellow handball.
The only player sent off against us at all, since Senderos, is the Motherwell boy in the league cup final :lol:

It’s getting to ridiculous levels now. Opposition know they can take turns booting us and get away with it. The worst ones for me are the blatent fouls whenever we beat a man; happens all the time and it’s tactical. They all know that if a Celtic player gets passed you then just trip him up or pull him back, it’s never a booking for some reason.
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The Gorbals Urchin
11 Feb 2018, 09:31 AM
Brendan must have some patience putting up with this week in week out .
Well, it’s high effing time it ran out. I’m sick to the back teeth of this meek, take it on the chin approach of the club, and I include it’s general dealings. Everyone takes the piss out of Celtic - match officials, other managers, other players - even their wives, FFS - the MSM, the football authorities. When an arsehole like Levein runs us down whenever the mood takes him, he’s doing it in the confidence any response will be feeble. Brendan’s maybe used to a more civilised football culture, but this is Scotland, and Scotland effing hates us.

The assaults on our players with the compliance of officials will only increase with our success. They become more brazen the longer a game goes on when unchecked. We must stop giving the cheating bastards an easy ride: question every wrong decision, pressure the ref into explaining wrong decisions, put them in the spotlight, highlight every foul - we go into every match as if history was erased, trusting them to referee fairly, and near every time they betray that basic trust.

Celtic is a soft touch. We need to man the eff up.
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aldo
11 Feb 2018, 11:17 AM
The Gorbals Urchin
11 Feb 2018, 09:31 AM
Brendan must have some patience putting up with this week in week out .
Well, it’s high effing time it ran out. I’m sick to the back teeth of this meek, take it on the chin approach of the club, and I include it’s general dealings. Everyone takes the piss out of Celtic - match officials, other managers, other players - even their wives, FFS - the MSM, the football authorities. When an arsehole like Levein runs us down whenever the mood takes him, he’s doing it in the confidence any response will be feeble. Brendan’s maybe used to a more civilised football culture, but this is Scotland, and Scotland effing hates us.

The assaults on our players with the compliance of officials will only increase with our success. They become more brazen the longer a game goes on when unchecked. We must stop giving the cheating bastards an easy ride: question every wrong decision, pressure the ref into explaining wrong decisions, put them in the spotlight, highlight every foul - we go into every match as if history was erased, trusting them to referee fairly, and near every time they betray that basic trust.

Celtic is a soft touch. We need to man the eff up.
:theclap:

Eff them :arrr:
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timsRus
11 Feb 2018, 01:09 AM
mozza
10 Feb 2018, 09:25 PM
Only saw the Lustig one in real time at the game but to be honest it looked like a 50/50 challenge with Lustig unlucky to get a bit of an injury.
Could be wrong though. Looking forward to seeing on tv.
Agree ... I'm in the Main stand ... Haven't seen a replay, but I thought it was a 50/50
Clear red. Over the ball and nowhere near it. Dont think there was any malice though if that makes sense.... ;)
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nivek
11 Feb 2018, 01:45 AM
There was a foul in the second half, Ntcham I think it was on. Thistle player just on as a sub, literally the first thing he did was foul. Just booted Ntcham. Ball well gone and a clean boot at our player! Was worthy of a red, no thought of anything else but to boot the player!! It’s actually sad how it’s being ignored and yet you get goats like Craig Levin saying our captain gets away with this, that and the other!
What do you do? Speak up, or just keeping winning and stick it to them?
Somebody will over step it soon and one of our players will get hurt badly!
Thistle sub was same guy that blootered ball into the stand in the league recently
Guy’s a headcase
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12 Feb 2018, 09:16 AM
nivek
11 Feb 2018, 01:45 AM
There was a foul in the second half, Ntcham I think it was on. Thistle player just on as a sub, literally the first thing he did was foul. Just booted Ntcham. Ball well gone and a clean boot at our player! Was worthy of a red, no thought of anything else but to boot the player!! It’s actually sad how it’s being ignored and yet you get goats like Craig Levin saying our captain gets away with this, that and the other!
What do you do? Speak up, or just keeping winning and stick it to them?
Somebody will over step it soon and one of our players will get hurt badly!
Thistle sub was same guy that blootered ball into the stand in the league recently
Guy’s a headcase
Fraser wasn't in Thistle squad.
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12 Feb 2018, 09:16 AM
nivek
11 Feb 2018, 01:45 AM
There was a foul in the second half, Ntcham I think it was on. Thistle player just on as a sub, literally the first thing he did was foul. Just booted Ntcham. Ball well gone and a clean boot at our player! Was worthy of a red, no thought of anything else but to boot the player!! It’s actually sad how it’s being ignored and yet you get goats like Craig Levin saying our captain gets away with this, that and the other!
What do you do? Speak up, or just keeping winning and stick it to them?
Somebody will over step it soon and one of our players will get hurt badly!
Thistle sub was same guy that blootered ball into the stand in the league recently
Guy’s a headcase
It was McCarthy who fouled Ntcham after coming on. Gary Fraser booted the ball into the stand.
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Scottish referees are bad alright but watching some English games recently some of the English refs are equally as poor. I'm in the minority here but I don't think there is a great refereeing conspiracy afoot to do down Celtic at every opportunity.
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IainG
12 Feb 2018, 01:18 PM
Scottish referees are bad alright but watching some English games recently some of the English refs are equally as poor. I'm in the minority here but I don't think there is a great refereeing conspiracy afoot to do down Celtic at every opportunity.
Yeah? An analysis of the number of fouls to bookings for Celtic players as opposed to their opponents might prove instructive. There's a PhD there for someone going back to 2000. Just a suggestion.

Edit: I'd be prepared to stand over the findings one way or the other. :thumbsup:
Edited by Torquemada, 12 Feb 2018, 01:28 PM.
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Torquemada
12 Feb 2018, 01:26 PM
IainG
12 Feb 2018, 01:18 PM
Scottish referees are bad alright but watching some English games recently some of the English refs are equally as poor. I'm in the minority here but I don't think there is a great refereeing conspiracy afoot to do down Celtic at every opportunity.
Yeah? An analysis of the number of fouls to bookings for Celtic players as opposed to their opponents might prove instructive. There's a PhD there for someone going back to 2000. Just a suggestion.
Agreed, and you could start with Broonie's booking agaisnt Killie, compared to what was allowed after than. And that's just the most recent example.
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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Torquemada
12 Feb 2018, 01:26 PM
IainG
12 Feb 2018, 01:18 PM
Scottish referees are bad alright but watching some English games recently some of the English refs are equally as poor. I'm in the minority here but I don't think there is a great refereeing conspiracy afoot to do down Celtic at every opportunity.
Yeah? An analysis of the number of fouls to bookings for Celtic players as opposed to their opponents might prove instructive. There's a PhD there for someone going back to 2000. Just a suggestion.

Edit: I'd be prepared to stand over the findings one way or the other. :thumbsup:
I'm afraid my doctorate will have to be on something simpler! Regarding Broony I would agree that the unfair reputation he has earned causes him to be carded often unfairly.
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Apparently some hun ran into the fans yesterday to celebrate his goal. Is that, or is that not a bookable offence? I really don't know, but if it is, surely tae feck there can be no ambiguity about the course of action a ref must take: if it's a rule then the player must be booked. No excuses, no exceptions. It's not an action that can be misconstrued or 'open to interpretation' as a challenge or a handball claim can be, it's open and shut. Celtic players are routinely booked for this, huns are not. Even if it's not an automatic bookable offence, would it be so difficult to challenge the inconsistency?
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