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Ref Watch 2017/18; A fraternity of dunces
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Topic Started: 5 Aug 2017, 03:56 PM (201,408 Views)
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Otis B Driftwood
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5 Nov 2017, 04:11 AM
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- shugmc
- 4 Nov 2017, 02:25 PM
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- 4 Nov 2017, 02:21 PM
Just apply the rules. Throw in taken from where the ball went out. St Johnstone player steals 10 yards for where Bitton mis controlled on the half way line, throw up to McLean and we concede a corner. Madden is in line where they ball went out but does fek all to bring it back. Defo think he's for the watching
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Dempele
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5 Nov 2017, 04:23 AM
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The Scottish cup final and huns 1-1 were shocking last season. Also, mind decisions v St mirren and Dundee utd made by him, the man's well worth a watching.
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jimthetim73
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5 Nov 2017, 10:58 AM
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- james95
- 4 Nov 2017, 07:27 PM
A year since anyone has been sent off against us. If true, that's an incredible stat I can think of 4 straight reds opposition players should have had, that's without even thinking about it in any detail. Makes our run all the sweeter, ya cheatin horrible hun bastards!
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5 Nov 2017, 01:54 PM
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The thing that frustrates me more than anything else is the mentality of not wanting to book or send off players "as it might ruin the game". I was watching Sky Sports News a couple of weeks ago and they had Dermot Gallagher on, and he said that refs allow tackles early on to go unpunished with the fear it will spoil the event. Howard Webb said something a while back on BT. If a foul is a yellow card in the 90th minute, it is a foul and a yellow in the 1st. Referees in Scotland almost allow a team to leave a marker on an opponent early on, and in essence this refereeing is endangering opponents and allows teams to boot opponents as every player is allowed a free hit.
I can understand the reluctance to make a match defining decision early on, no referee wants to be the story of the day, but their cowardice to follow the rules means that every game teams will feel it is OK to set up like St Johnstone do, and it does not help the game in this country. It has allowed so many cloggers to prosper and seen many decent footballs fail to make it. Only in Scotland could a player like Paul Paton be allowed to make a career out of football.
All that said, it isn't all applicable yesterday as it is clear to me that Madden is just a down right cheat.
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5 Nov 2017, 01:57 PM
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- 4 Nov 2017, 07:27 PM
A year since anyone has been sent off against us.
If true, that's an incredible stat I can think of 4 straight reds opposition players should have had, that's without even thinking about it in any detail. Makes our run all the sweeter, ya cheatin horrible hun bastards! There were 4 in the 1-1 win Sevco had against us last season. I reckon you’d have to actually kill one of our players for a red to be issued .
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5 Nov 2017, 02:56 PM
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- 4 Nov 2017, 07:27 PM
A year since anyone has been sent off against us.
If true, that's an incredible stat I can think of 4 straight reds opposition players should have had, that's without even thinking about it in any detail. Makes our run all the sweeter, ya cheatin horrible hun bastards!
There were 4 in the 1-1 win Sevco had against us last season. I reckon you’d have to actually kill one of our players for a red to be issued . No doubt the review panel would downgrade it to a yellow
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5 Nov 2017, 03:20 PM
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The FK he gave against Lustig at the corner in the 1st half was my favourite. The guys a disgrace. I couldn't go to the game as my son took a reaction to something he ate and when I watched it at home, I couldn't believe how much a snivelling, wee, soup-taking apologist Andy Walker actually is during his comms.
I was fuming at that decision. Replay is shown a few times and all that dick said was how easily Lustig went down, despite that ugly, clogging bastard Anderson having both arms around him. Not a word said about how there was no foul committed against any Saints player and that Madden blew his whistle for eff all.
Madden is a cheating carrot.
Andy Walker if you're reading this, you can go and take a eff to your dishonest self.
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5 Nov 2017, 04:59 PM
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I posted during the live match thread at the time that I watched an English game a couple of weeks ago (sorry can't remember which one) and the ref was right on top of defenders holding attacking players in the box at free kicks and corners. He duly awarded a penalty for holding.
As I watched the St Johnstone defenders all over our players with Midden speaking to the players before the ball went into play I just knew he would blow instantly for a free kick to them as soon as the ball was in play and there you had it he gave them a free kick for a non existent foul committed by a Celtic player. In fact it was the other way around and it was a foul on our players i.e. a penalty. I knew that he would give them it no matter what happened. He was at it - end of. There is no way that bastard was ever going to give us a penalty so he just gave them a free kick for a non existent foul.
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5 Nov 2017, 08:02 PM
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- 5 Nov 2017, 03:02 AM
It is becoming less relevant anyway. Assault a player, and, if you play for Sevco, appeal. Goes away. Ryan Jack latest is beyond explanation, but not seen any offered? Irrelevant in the games following the actual match but us losing a man in a match is probably our biggest danger of our record being broken atm imo.
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6 Nov 2017, 07:05 PM
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Not SPFL related but ref related (delete it if the emphasis moves away from the SPFL). Wenger, who normally never sees anything, saying that Sterling dived, never a penalty and that standard of refereeing is getting worse every year. Wonder what would happen to a manger up here if they went on a rant like that?
Spoiler: click to toggle Former England star Alan Shearer has blasted Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger for his comments about Raheem Sterling following Manchester City's win against Arsenal at the Etihad on Sunday. The Gunners boss accused the City winger of diving when the home side were given a penalty which led to the Citizens taking a 2-0 lead. Speaking after the game, Wenger had some strong words for the ex-Liverpool man. "I believe it was no penalty," Wenger told BBC Sport. "We know that Sterling dives well, he does that very well." Speaking on Match of the Day 2, former Newcastle man Shearer was angry at the Frenchman's comments and believed it was a penalty. "There is no way that was a dive and it was a penalty. It's one thing for Wenger to deflect from his team's inadequacies, it's another to question someone's integrity and be wrong. "I think he owes Sterling an apology." Along with his comments on Sterling, Wenger was angry at the officials on the day for their part in City's third goal, which should have been flagged offside for both David Silva and the scorer Gabriel Jesus. The Arsenal boss had a dig at the officials and claimed that the standard is getting worse every year. "I feel the referees don't work enough. The level drops every season at the moment and, overall, it's unacceptable," he said. "The third goal was offside. I am very upset because at 2-1 we were in the game. The third goal was the killer and it is by coincidence that mistakes always go for the home team, as we know. You can accept it if City win in a normal way, but this is unacceptable." On the other hand, Pep Guardiola was thrilled after he saw his side win their ninth game in a row in the Premier League, a new personal best for the Manchester club. "We won in the best way," the Spaniard said. "Sometimes it's like this. "I was told it was offside and I don't want to win like this, but earlier this season Arsenal beat Burnley with a handball in the 96th minute." Former Gunner Ian Wright also commented on the penalty incident and felt that Wenger's comments were somewhat harsh. "It was a penalty, the defending was poor. It was clumsy and clunky from Nacho Monreal and he catches a leg. You can see it clearly. It's harsh for Wenger to say that, it's not good." The defeat leaves Arsenal sixth in the table and with questions of where their season is heading. The Arsenal faithful will hope for better results after the international break when they play in the North London derby against Spurs. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/news/alan-shearer-annoyed-at-arsene-wengers-comments-concerning-raheem-sterling-dive/ar-AAuukF7?li=AAmiR2Z&MSCC=1509990933&ocid=spartanntp
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6 Nov 2017, 07:07 PM
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I'm not one for refs as cheats usually. But I think that carrot Madden is a effing cheat. Baldy, twisted , thunderbastard that he is.
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6 Nov 2017, 07:16 PM
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- 6 Nov 2017, 07:05 PM
Not SPFL related but ref related (delete it if the emphasis moves away from the SPFL). Wenger, who normally never sees anything, saying that Sterling dived, never a penalty and that standard of refereeing is getting worse every year. Wonder what would happen to a manger up here if they went on a rant like that? Spoiler: click to toggle Former England star Alan Shearer has blasted Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger for his comments about Raheem Sterling following Manchester City's win against Arsenal at the Etihad on Sunday. The Gunners boss accused the City winger of diving when the home side were given a penalty which led to the Citizens taking a 2-0 lead. Speaking after the game, Wenger had some strong words for the ex-Liverpool man. "I believe it was no penalty," Wenger told BBC Sport. "We know that Sterling dives well, he does that very well." Speaking on Match of the Day 2, former Newcastle man Shearer was angry at the Frenchman's comments and believed it was a penalty. "There is no way that was a dive and it was a penalty. It's one thing for Wenger to deflect from his team's inadequacies, it's another to question someone's integrity and be wrong. "I think he owes Sterling an apology." Along with his comments on Sterling, Wenger was angry at the officials on the day for their part in City's third goal, which should have been flagged offside for both David Silva and the scorer Gabriel Jesus. The Arsenal boss had a dig at the officials and claimed that the standard is getting worse every year. "I feel the referees don't work enough. The level drops every season at the moment and, overall, it's unacceptable," he said. "The third goal was offside. I am very upset because at 2-1 we were in the game. The third goal was the killer and it is by coincidence that mistakes always go for the home team, as we know. You can accept it if City win in a normal way, but this is unacceptable." On the other hand, Pep Guardiola was thrilled after he saw his side win their ninth game in a row in the Premier League, a new personal best for the Manchester club. "We won in the best way," the Spaniard said. "Sometimes it's like this. "I was told it was offside and I don't want to win like this, but earlier this season Arsenal beat Burnley with a handball in the 96th minute." Former Gunner Ian Wright also commented on the penalty incident and felt that Wenger's comments were somewhat harsh. "It was a penalty, the defending was poor. It was clumsy and clunky from Nacho Monreal and he catches a leg. You can see it clearly. It's harsh for Wenger to say that, it's not good." The defeat leaves Arsenal sixth in the table and with questions of where their season is heading. The Arsenal faithful will hope for better results after the international break when they play in the North London derby against Spurs. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/news/alan-shearer-annoyed-at-arsene-wengers-comments-concerning-raheem-sterling-dive/ar-AAuukF7?li=AAmiR2Z&MSCC=1509990933&ocid=spartanntp wenger can go and take a eff to himself.
the carrot has selective vision as he had eff all to say about eduardo cheating us for a penalty.
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6 Nov 2017, 08:16 PM
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Not SPFL related but ref related (delete it if the emphasis moves away from the SPFL). Wenger, who normally never sees anything, saying that Sterling dived, never a penalty and that standard of refereeing is getting worse every year. Wonder what would happen to a manger up here if they went on a rant like that? Spoiler: click to toggle Former England star Alan Shearer has blasted Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger for his comments about Raheem Sterling following Manchester City's win against Arsenal at the Etihad on Sunday. The Gunners boss accused the City winger of diving when the home side were given a penalty which led to the Citizens taking a 2-0 lead. Speaking after the game, Wenger had some strong words for the ex-Liverpool man. "I believe it was no penalty," Wenger told BBC Sport. "We know that Sterling dives well, he does that very well." Speaking on Match of the Day 2, former Newcastle man Shearer was angry at the Frenchman's comments and believed it was a penalty. "There is no way that was a dive and it was a penalty. It's one thing for Wenger to deflect from his team's inadequacies, it's another to question someone's integrity and be wrong. "I think he owes Sterling an apology." Along with his comments on Sterling, Wenger was angry at the officials on the day for their part in City's third goal, which should have been flagged offside for both David Silva and the scorer Gabriel Jesus. The Arsenal boss had a dig at the officials and claimed that the standard is getting worse every year. "I feel the referees don't work enough. The level drops every season at the moment and, overall, it's unacceptable," he said. "The third goal was offside. I am very upset because at 2-1 we were in the game. The third goal was the killer and it is by coincidence that mistakes always go for the home team, as we know. You can accept it if City win in a normal way, but this is unacceptable." On the other hand, Pep Guardiola was thrilled after he saw his side win their ninth game in a row in the Premier League, a new personal best for the Manchester club. "We won in the best way," the Spaniard said. "Sometimes it's like this. "I was told it was offside and I don't want to win like this, but earlier this season Arsenal beat Burnley with a handball in the 96th minute." Former Gunner Ian Wright also commented on the penalty incident and felt that Wenger's comments were somewhat harsh. "It was a penalty, the defending was poor. It was clumsy and clunky from Nacho Monreal and he catches a leg. You can see it clearly. It's harsh for Wenger to say that, it's not good." The defeat leaves Arsenal sixth in the table and with questions of where their season is heading. The Arsenal faithful will hope for better results after the international break when they play in the North London derby against Spurs. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/news/alan-shearer-annoyed-at-arsene-wengers-comments-concerning-raheem-sterling-dive/ar-AAuukF7?li=AAmiR2Z&MSCC=1509990933&ocid=spartanntp
wenger can go and take a eff to himself. the carrot has selective vision as he had eff all to say about eduardo cheating us for a penalty. Both Wenger and Houlier (when he was manager at Liverpool) were the worst. They both had eagle eyes for any alleged wrongdoing that was against their team but both of them would utter their immortal phrase (in a French accent of course..) "I did not see it" when asked about an indiscretion perpetrated by one of their players.
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6 Nov 2017, 08:55 PM
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A year since anyone has been sent off against us.
If true, that's an incredible stat I can think of 4 straight reds opposition players should have had, that's without even thinking about it in any detail. Makes our run all the sweeter, ya cheatin horrible hun bastards! St mirren at christmas eve, mcgregor sent off?
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6 Nov 2017, 08:56 PM
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Not SPFL related but ref related (delete it if the emphasis moves away from the SPFL). Wenger, who normally never sees anything, saying that Sterling dived, never a penalty and that standard of refereeing is getting worse every year. Wonder what would happen to a manger up here if they went on a rant like that? Spoiler: click to toggle Former England star Alan Shearer has blasted Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger for his comments about Raheem Sterling following Manchester City's win against Arsenal at the Etihad on Sunday. The Gunners boss accused the City winger of diving when the home side were given a penalty which led to the Citizens taking a 2-0 lead. Speaking after the game, Wenger had some strong words for the ex-Liverpool man. "I believe it was no penalty," Wenger told BBC Sport. "We know that Sterling dives well, he does that very well." Speaking on Match of the Day 2, former Newcastle man Shearer was angry at the Frenchman's comments and believed it was a penalty. "There is no way that was a dive and it was a penalty. It's one thing for Wenger to deflect from his team's inadequacies, it's another to question someone's integrity and be wrong. "I think he owes Sterling an apology." Along with his comments on Sterling, Wenger was angry at the officials on the day for their part in City's third goal, which should have been flagged offside for both David Silva and the scorer Gabriel Jesus. The Arsenal boss had a dig at the officials and claimed that the standard is getting worse every year. "I feel the referees don't work enough. The level drops every season at the moment and, overall, it's unacceptable," he said. "The third goal was offside. I am very upset because at 2-1 we were in the game. The third goal was the killer and it is by coincidence that mistakes always go for the home team, as we know. You can accept it if City win in a normal way, but this is unacceptable." On the other hand, Pep Guardiola was thrilled after he saw his side win their ninth game in a row in the Premier League, a new personal best for the Manchester club. "We won in the best way," the Spaniard said. "Sometimes it's like this. "I was told it was offside and I don't want to win like this, but earlier this season Arsenal beat Burnley with a handball in the 96th minute." Former Gunner Ian Wright also commented on the penalty incident and felt that Wenger's comments were somewhat harsh. "It was a penalty, the defending was poor. It was clumsy and clunky from Nacho Monreal and he catches a leg. You can see it clearly. It's harsh for Wenger to say that, it's not good." The defeat leaves Arsenal sixth in the table and with questions of where their season is heading. The Arsenal faithful will hope for better results after the international break when they play in the North London derby against Spurs. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/news/alan-shearer-annoyed-at-arsene-wengers-comments-concerning-raheem-sterling-dive/ar-AAuukF7?li=AAmiR2Z&MSCC=1509990933&ocid=spartanntp He'd be away.
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11 Nov 2017, 01:44 PM
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I'm not one for refs as cheats usually. But I think that carrot Madden is a effing cheat. Baldy, twisted , thunderbastard that he is.
This.
He is upping the ante match by match. I couldn't name one Scottish referee I regard as decent but I honestly believe Madden is the only one who has enough of a brass neck not to give the stonewall penalty for the foul on LG in the 1-1 Huns game last season.
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11 Nov 2017, 02:41 PM
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I'm not one for refs as cheats usually. But I think that carrot Madden is a effing cheat. Baldy, twisted , thunderbastard that he is.
This. He is upping the ante match by match. I couldn't name one Scottish referee I regard as decent but I honestly believe Madden is the only one who has enough of a brass neck not to give the stonewall penalty for the foul on LG in the 1-1 Huns game last season. As soon as he never gave a red against Holt for two-footing Paddy about 5 mins earlier I knew we weren’t getting that stonewall PK.
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11 Nov 2017, 02:54 PM
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The free kick that never was that led to their goal in that game was a cracker as well
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12 Nov 2017, 02:14 PM
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Have spotted Brother Clancy on a train heading home from England. Carrot looks like his mammy still dresses him.
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14 Nov 2017, 06:26 PM
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Nick Walsh referee for Saturday v Ross County - Tory Douglass Ross on line
http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resources/documents/RefereeAppointments/SPFL/14.%20SPFL%20Appointments%20-%20Saturday%2018th%20-%20Wednesday%2022nd%20November%202017.pdf
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