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Moussa Dembele
Topic Started: 28 Jun 2016, 11:59 AM (860,710 Views)
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Dannybhoy95
29 Aug 2016, 08:37 AM
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29 Aug 2016, 12:05 AM
I could probably add Forrest, Roberts, Griffiths, Rogic and Sinclair to this 'hold up/linking/assist' chat and find an equal or greater amount from those players.
Obviously. Seeing as it's the wingers/midfielders job to link the effing play. :lol: I'd be interested to see you try with Griff. He's already stated a few times it's the weakest part of his game.

No one is creating any myth. No one said it's extraordinary. However, it's better than Griffiths' and it's something we've not had in several years.

Failed to live up to expectations? That's quite clearly another lie you've created. 4 goals in 10 games for a 19 year old, who hasn't even started the majority of those games is impressive as eff, actually. Anyone who says otherwise is at it, or really doesn't know how football works.
Good post.

:thumbsup:

I think the guy got upset that someone dared to point out a weakness in Griff's game.
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28 Aug 2016, 11:46 PM
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28 Aug 2016, 11:40 PM
I don't like to get on the back of any Celtic player but I have to agree with some that his attitude can seem a bit suspect. Unless my eyes deceived me he left the pitch at the end of the game yesterday and didn't wait to receive or reciprocate the applause of the fans. If that was the case then it doesn't sit well with me nor will it sit well with many of the fans in the longer term. Someone of greater maturity in the squad maybe needs to have a word in his ear.
Came off the pitch last (along with Griffiths) after giving his shirt to a fan.
That was Toure
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He's nowhere near as good as Viduka so he can get over his face tripping antics sharpish. He's going to be an important player away from home, needs to screw the nut
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There was a stupid article in the Daily Mail claiming that he might get an England call up once he has been UK resident for five years in 2017. This is because Allardyce and co have basically given up on English clubs producing English players of any quality at all.

That isn't how it works, Daily Mail! (and he has been capped at every level of the French youth setup already anyway, so I can't imagine he wouldn't be called up by France if he were to look remotely good enough for England in the future)
Edited by drks, 30 Aug 2016, 05:02 AM.
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30 Aug 2016, 05:01 AM
There was a stupid article in the Daily Mail claiming that he might get an England call up once he has been UK resident for five years in 2017. This is because Allardyce and co have basically given up on English clubs producing English players of any quality at all.

That isn't how it works, Daily Mail! (and he has been capped at every level of the French youth setup already anyway, so I can't imagine he wouldn't be called up by France if he were to look remotely good enough for England in the future)
He wouldn't get an England call-up while he plays in Scotland anyway. Gary Hooper didn't get one when he was scoring 30+ a season, Fraser Forster only got a couple becuase Joe Hart played in the EPL and Alan Thompson got all of 45 minutes despite being comfortably the best English left-sided midfielder of his day. The French probably don't pay much attention to Scotland either (you'd think Agathe might have been called up to a squad at least) but I doubt they'd be as parochial about our league as the English.
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30 Aug 2016, 08:26 AM
drks
30 Aug 2016, 05:01 AM
There was a stupid article in the Daily Mail claiming that he might get an England call up once he has been UK resident for five years in 2017. This is because Allardyce and co have basically given up on English clubs producing English players of any quality at all.

That isn't how it works, Daily Mail! (and he has been capped at every level of the French youth setup already anyway, so I can't imagine he wouldn't be called up by France if he were to look remotely good enough for England in the future)
He wouldn't get an England call-up while he plays in Scotland anyway. Gary Hooper didn't get one when he was scoring 30+ a season, Fraser Forster only got a couple becuase Joe Hart played in the EPL and Alan Thompson got all of 45 minutes despite being comfortably the best English left-sided midfielder of his day. The French probably don't pay much attention to Scotland either (you'd think Agathe might have been called up to a squad at least) but I doubt they'd be as parochial about our league as the English.
The biggest miss England had was Sutton. Sutton was excellent in CL and EL for us and was a far better player than Heskey.

What a shame for them.
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30 Aug 2016, 08:43 AM
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30 Aug 2016, 08:26 AM
drks
30 Aug 2016, 05:01 AM
There was a stupid article in the Daily Mail claiming that he might get an England call up once he has been UK resident for five years in 2017. This is because Allardyce and co have basically given up on English clubs producing English players of any quality at all.

That isn't how it works, Daily Mail! (and he has been capped at every level of the French youth setup already anyway, so I can't imagine he wouldn't be called up by France if he were to look remotely good enough for England in the future)
He wouldn't get an England call-up while he plays in Scotland anyway. Gary Hooper didn't get one when he was scoring 30+ a season, Fraser Forster only got a couple becuase Joe Hart played in the EPL and Alan Thompson got all of 45 minutes despite being comfortably the best English left-sided midfielder of his day. The French probably don't pay much attention to Scotland either (you'd think Agathe might have been called up to a squad at least) but I doubt they'd be as parochial about our league as the English.
The biggest miss England had was Sutton. Sutton was excellent in CL and EL for us and was a far better player than Heskey.

What a shame for them.
:doh:

I knew there was an English Celtic player I'd forgotten to mention :lol:
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My take on it, If hes the penalty taker he should've taken the penalty on Saturday. If Sinclair wasn't giving him the ball knowing Dembele is the penalty taker then someone with more authority in the team (Brown, Toure etc) should be telling Sinclair to give him the ball.
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30 Aug 2016, 09:47 AM
My take on it, If hes the penalty taker he should've taken the penalty on Saturday. If Sinclair wasn't giving him the ball knowing Dembele is the penalty taker then someone with more authority in the team (Brown, Toure etc) should be telling Sinclair to give him the ball.
i agree. if dembele was pissed off i would suggest it is because he is desperate to impress and lost an chance too. if anything he is worrying too much
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Big_dave_greenock_1888
30 Aug 2016, 09:47 AM
My take on it, If hes the penalty taker he should've taken the penalty on Saturday. If Sinclair wasn't giving him the ball knowing Dembele is the penalty taker then someone with more authority in the team (Brown, Toure etc) should be telling Sinclair to give him the ball.
Absolutely. :thumbsup:

Sinclair strikes me as a guy trying to build up his own playing confidence after a difficult few years. By the nature of our business we're going to have guys in this position, and taking/scoring a penalty is an easy wee confidence booster for these guys.

I know it's not a huge deal, but there really shouldn't be any discussion over who takes penalties. This should all be sorted before the first whistle.
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30 Aug 2016, 10:02 AM
Big_dave_greenock_1888
30 Aug 2016, 09:47 AM
My take on it, If hes the penalty taker he should've taken the penalty on Saturday. If Sinclair wasn't giving him the ball knowing Dembele is the penalty taker then someone with more authority in the team (Brown, Toure etc) should be telling Sinclair to give him the ball.
Absolutely. :thumbsup:

Sinclair strikes me as a guy trying to build up his own playing confidence after a difficult few years. By the nature of our business we're going to have guys in this position, and taking/scoring a penalty is an easy wee confidence booster for these guys.

I know it's not a huge deal, but there really shouldn't be any discussion over who takes penalties. This should all be sorted before the first whistle.
i think sinclair was told he was on penalties as he started and dembele didn't and when we got one never thought that dembele is on them now he is on
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Must be a while since we scored 4 consecutive penalties.

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30 Aug 2016, 10:10 AM
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Big_dave_greenock_1888
30 Aug 2016, 09:47 AM
My take on it, If hes the penalty taker he should've taken the penalty on Saturday. If Sinclair wasn't giving him the ball knowing Dembele is the penalty taker then someone with more authority in the team (Brown, Toure etc) should be telling Sinclair to give him the ball.
Absolutely. :thumbsup:

Sinclair strikes me as a guy trying to build up his own playing confidence after a difficult few years. By the nature of our business we're going to have guys in this position, and taking/scoring a penalty is an easy wee confidence booster for these guys.

I know it's not a huge deal, but there really shouldn't be any discussion over who takes penalties. This should all be sorted before the first whistle.
i think sinclair was told he was on penalties as he started and dembele didn't and when we got one never thought that dembele is on them now he is on
I'm pretty certain the manager will have made the position abundantly clear after Saturday. Looks to me like Dembele is No 1 designated taker , with Sinclair next.
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30 Aug 2016, 10:23 AM
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i think sinclair was told he was on penalties as he started and dembele didn't and when we got one never thought that dembele is on them now he is on
I'm pretty certain the manager will have made the position abundantly clear after Saturday. Looks to me like Dembele is No 1 designated taker , with Sinclair next.
wasn't at the game but did they actually argue over the ball or did dembele just accept it in a huff?
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i think sinclair was told he was on penalties as he started and dembele didn't and when we got one never thought that dembele is on them now he is on
I'm pretty certain the manager will have made the position abundantly clear after Saturday. Looks to me like Dembele is No 1 designated taker , with Sinclair next.
Yep. Guessing that Sinclair was the designated penalty taker while Dembele was on the bench. Once he came on it probably wasn't clear who would be first in line at that stage or at least not clear to Sinclair.

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I'm pretty certain the manager will have made the position abundantly clear after Saturday. Looks to me like Dembele is No 1 designated taker , with Sinclair next.
wasn't at the game but did they actually argue over the ball or did dembele just accept it in a huff?
They didn't do handbags but Dembele had a chat with Sinclair, but got nowhere. He then approached Brown who literally waved him away. It was after that that he took the huff.

This is the kind of distraction that players can well do without in a game. Sort it properly before we go on the pitch. And have a captain prepared to to apply the manager's instructions.
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Dembele just stood there with his hands on his hips & didn't move an inch as Sinclair took/scored the penalty.
He should've been on his toes, ready to slot the rebound if Sinclair missed.

Not a great attitude, but I can see his issue - even so, he needs to focus better.
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28 Aug 2016, 11:40 PM
I don't like to get on the back of any Celtic player but I have to agree with some that his attitude can seem a bit suspect. Unless my eyes deceived me he left the pitch at the end of the game yesterday and didn't wait to receive or reciprocate the applause of the fans. If that was the case then it doesn't sit well with me nor will it sit well with many of the fans in the longer term. Someone of greater maturity in the squad maybe needs to have a word in his ear.
Came off the pitch last (along with Griffiths) after giving his shirt to a fan.
That was Toure
:doh: 00ops :ph43r:
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no issue at all with him being a grumpy effer. larsson, sutton and many others were too and they turned out ok
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I'm pretty certain the manager will have made the position abundantly clear after Saturday. Looks to me like Dembele is No 1 designated taker , with Sinclair next.
Yep. Guessing that Sinclair was the designated penalty taker while Dembele was on the bench. Once he came on it probably wasn't clear who would be first in line at that stage or at least not clear to Sinclair.

I suspect it was perfectly clear to Sinclair. :lol:
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