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Moussa Dembele
Topic Started: 28 Jun 2016, 11:59 AM (860,739 Views)
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KrnyBhoy
28 Jul 2016, 01:27 AM
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28 Jul 2016, 01:02 AM
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28 Jul 2016, 12:35 AM

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Looks like he does a two footed dive forward. Doesn't mean he wasn't fouled but probably not a penalty.
looks to have went down a bit easy , but the defender did put pressure on him . From other angles we might be able to see if he had an arm across him
Looked like a penalty to me. Maybe was looking for it a bit, but still one of those "anywhere else on the field and that's a foul" moments. Look at the two celtic players with almost the exact same view as the ref, their reaction to the foul and to the ref's decision looks more than just the typical 'claim to see if you can get something' kind of thing.
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Looked like a heavy first touch to me that pushed the ball too far ahead.

He should have laid the ball off to Roberts who had got goal side of his marker and had room to advance.

Still thought it was a reasonable penalty shout, though, and he did well to muscle has way in after a heavy touch.
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I didn't think it was a penalty but it's in the 'seen them given' category.

In general, hasn't got going yet but he's young and has enough of a pedigree to say he'll come good.

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Just needs a goal and he will come right for us. :ph43r:
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28 Jul 2016, 03:54 AM
Just needs a goal and he will come right for us. :ph43r:
"There's a player in there, somewhere".

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About 1.30 seconds into this video is the penalty shout. Great burst of pace from Dembele. Guy holds him back and then rugby tackles him. Pen for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WxVyPaMuVI
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28 Jul 2016, 12:46 AM
Then when he got subbed. BR had a wee encouraging word in his ear, he then high fiver most of players in dugout, missing out Forest.
What's his Kds login?
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He's trying a bit too hard, desperate for the goals to come, runs into trouble at times when he could play someone else in or lay it off. Looks like a player, needs to settle in and then could forge a partnership with Griffiths.
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He needs to learn to pass.
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I think he's a decent player, but lacking a bit of mach sharpness and integration with the team. He needs to keep playing in order for him and Griffiths to get a partnership going. He was denied a penalty for some reason unknown to me last night. We have to remember that he's still new to the team. He won't know everyone particularly well, nor will he feel "part" of anything yet. His reaction to the goal looks nothing more than a young boy in his 20's looking a bit uncomfortable. He'll be thinking that he's not scored yet, that he's still not integrated with the team, not a Celtic "fan" yet.
People need to be patient. Time is all he needs.
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allthewine
28 Jul 2016, 09:13 AM
About 1.30 seconds into this video is the penalty shout. Great burst of pace from Dembele. Guy holds him back and then rugby tackles him. Pen for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WxVyPaMuVI
I didn't see the match, was it as grim as those highlights make out?
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I think when a guy like Zidane rates a player highly then that's a good enough endorsement, I'm sure he knows him better than any of the manager wannabes on here........this place cracks me up sometimes, so many experts who play far to much football manager
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Still settling in and he still young and developing, I'd like to see another striker come in that has a bit more experience. We would be scrambling, if something happened to Griffiths.

Commons, is the only other player we have that can play up front and score goals constitently at this level.....and he is 32, just had back surgery and was commentating for the club yesterday.
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28 Jul 2016, 09:29 AM
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28 Jul 2016, 09:13 AM
About 1.30 seconds into this video is the penalty shout. Great burst of pace from Dembele. Guy holds him back and then rugby tackles him. Pen for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WxVyPaMuVI
I didn't see the match, was it as grim as those highlights make out?
We played ok without creating a lot. I think the full match is on youtube.
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28 Jul 2016, 09:35 AM
I think when a guy like Zidane rates a player highly then that's a good enough endorsement, I'm sure he knows him better than any of the manager wannabes on here........this place cracks me up sometimes, so many experts who play far to much football manager
What's football manager got to do with noticing a guy doesn't like to pass the ball?
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allthewine
28 Jul 2016, 09:13 AM
About 1.30 seconds into this video is the penalty shout. Great burst of pace from Dembele. Guy holds him back and then rugby tackles him. Pen for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WxVyPaMuVI
That's a pen for this bear.
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allthewine
28 Jul 2016, 09:13 AM
About 1.30 seconds into this video is the penalty shout. Great burst of pace from Dembele. Guy holds him back and then rugby tackles him. Pen for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WxVyPaMuVI
Theres no way that can be told from that angle. We need a clearer picture but they didnt seem to get s replay on premier or celtic tv.

My initial reaction was a heavy touch the Astana player put the shoulder into him and Dembele took another step before leaning into him and going down. I just as easy cant say thats correct without a replay. But from what we saw on any tv pics nobody can say stonewaller and nobody can say it wasnt a penalty. Its just not clear enough.
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28 Jul 2016, 09:35 AM
I think when a guy like Zidane rates a player highly then that's a good enough endorsement, I'm sure he knows him better than any of the manager wannabes on here........this place cracks me up sometimes, so many experts who play far to much football manager
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28 Jul 2016, 09:59 AM
allthewine
28 Jul 2016, 09:13 AM
About 1.30 seconds into this video is the penalty shout. Great burst of pace from Dembele. Guy holds him back and then rugby tackles him. Pen for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WxVyPaMuVI
Theres no way that can be told from that angle. We need a clearer picture but they didnt seem to get s replay on premier or celtic tv.

My initial reaction was a heavy touch the Astana player put the shoulder into him and Dembele took another step before leaning into him and going down. I just as easy cant say thats correct without a replay. But from what we saw on any tv pics nobody can say stonewaller and nobody can say it wasnt a penalty. Its just not clear enough.
Premier or CelticTV didn't show a replay because the Kazakhstan TV guys who were broadcasting it didn't show one :thumbsup:

Premier/Celtic/BT/Sky merely show what is fed to them, they have no power on directing the pictures
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PaulWilson
28 Jul 2016, 03:06 AM
Looked like a heavy first touch to me that pushed the ball too far ahead.

He should have laid the ball off to Roberts who had got goal side of his marker and had room to advance.

Still thought it was a reasonable penalty shout, though, and he did well to muscle has way in after a heavy touch.
I've not been too impressed with him so far, but I thought that was a decent first touch. Knocked it beyond where the defender was expecting it, allowed Dembele to be pretty direct and try to get into a position to threaten goal (which he's not been doing enough), so I can forgive that his first instinct wasn't to play Roberts in.

After watching that replay a few times, I initially thought that you can't tell how much contact there is from that angle so was undecided. But... if you watch it and only watch the defender, he makes no attempt to play the ball, leans in on Dembele and that's not enough. He then falls into Dembele and knocks him over, so penalty for me. Can't grumble too much that the ref never awarded it as it's not as clear cut as various others.
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