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Moussa Dembele
Topic Started: 28 Jun 2016, 11:59 AM (860,301 Views)
timmyhendrix
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12 Mar 2018, 03:58 PM
CelticMad123
12 Mar 2018, 03:52 PM
anyone got his stats in terms of goals and assist for this season?
13 goals 8 assists. Scoring every 141 mins. Per TransferMarkt.
20 goals definitely a realistic target for him and could even catch Boyd, who's seven ahead in the league goals table. Although you imagine Boyd will still stick the odd one in before the season's out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/scottish-premiership/top-scorers
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looking at the spfl goal page he has joint most assists despite having significantly less playing time.

Hes also contributing a goal or assist every 90 minutes or so, not bad for someone whos "been pish" this season
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12 Mar 2018, 01:10 PM
I hope he stays forever.
Him and Edouard both :thumbsup:
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CelticMad123
14 Mar 2018, 12:40 PM
looking at the spfl goal page he has joint most assists despite having significantly less playing time.

Hes also contributing a goal or assist every 90 minutes or so, not bad for someone whos "been pish" this season
No doubt the SMSM will compare Mousa with Boyd and say the stats prove that he isn't as good as that fat tub of lard in the same way they did about Boyd and Henrik :cuckoo:
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14 Mar 2018, 12:49 PM
Mackin
12 Mar 2018, 01:10 PM
I hope he stays forever.
Him and Edouard both :thumbsup:
would be amazing to have a French day at CP for our three awesome young Frenchmen. Can only imagine how many hun heids would explode if we had a French Tricolour day before the end of the season. :lol:
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14 Mar 2018, 12:56 PM
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14 Mar 2018, 12:49 PM
Mackin
12 Mar 2018, 01:10 PM
I hope he stays forever.
Him and Edouard both :thumbsup:
would be amazing to have a French day at CP for our three awesome young Frenchmen. Can only imagine how many hun heids would explode if we had a French Tricolour day before the end of the season. :lol:
We should have an Ivory Coast day as well for Eboue and Toure. :ph43r:
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12 Mar 2018, 08:39 PM
Offft Moussa I take it all back. Finish the season strong, get us into the CL and leave if you must. Or You could just stay for a while
:lol: :lol: :lol: feckin fraud right enough, and its you
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23 Feb 2018, 02:52 AM
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22 Feb 2018, 11:57 PM
nakasboots
22 Feb 2018, 10:05 PM

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you should probably stop speaking to stupid idiots then.

Ste.CSC

Seriously though, you’re talking nonsense. Dembele far more useful in games like tonight.

Edit - the way you post, folk could be forgiven for thinking you’re happy when Dembele doesn’t score or when we’re rubbish when he plays, gives you more “evidence” in your pro-Griffiths argument.
I guess I should just count ST holders, mates and the countless guys I taxi to the matches and pubs as 'stupid idiots'

In the real world most folk I chat with prefer Griffiths in a Celtic shirt.

As for my 'pro Griffiths' argument, it's pretty simple.

If I was to choose over either, I'd have Griffiths.

In his absence, ideally Dembele would be doing the things Griffiths brings and the rest.

Instead he fails to do that which comes before any technical ability which is pressure players.

For a lump of a lad he rarely uses his physique to unsettle defenders.
For someone who we are told has pace, he rarely chases down lost causes.
Larsson, Griffiths etc are examples of defending from the front, they never gave keepers or defenders any time and on the odd occasion this has led to mistakes from the defending team. It also acts as motivation for those behind them to do likewise.

This argument we are regularly hearing about the midfield not helping his cause is one we rarely hear in respect of Griffiths.

The reason for that is not always a static midfield but rather a static striker.

How can a midfielder look to play a cutting pass to a guy who stands still and appears suited only to a ball to feet with his back to goal 25 yards or so out?

His lack of movement is lamentable at times and again this causes the midfield to play across instead of forward.

Griffiths plays on the shoulder, comes short, plays the flanks and even if be doesn't receive the ball, his movement allows others to make space and advance.

I would add that LG has a better variety of goals, many coming from his weaker foot and often from the edge of the box, whilst MD has (from memory) only scored from within 18 yards.

LG has been prolific at every club and scored at every level, so when looking at each player separately and their attributes, the only thing MD has over LG is strength and possibly ariel ability but it matters not a jot when you don't apply yourself.

MD cannot be somehow be viewed as a big game player when he struggles to handle SPL defenders. Big game players also have the ability and mentality to perform against bread and butter teams.

If MD ran himself into the ground and things didn't come off for him, I'd be much more sympathetic but I'm not the only one in this thread or many of the match threads who have taken note of his apparent application.

In addition I've never slated MD the way many have but unlike some, I'm not going to lavish praise on the guy or look for countless excuses to explain away his very obvious and increasingly common poor displays.
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I find it bizarre at this stage that we have folk not only insisting Griffiths is a superior player but coming out with mince like "ideally Dembele would be doing the things Griffiths brings and the rest."

Are you seduced by his tying scarves to the Ibrox goalposts routine that much, that you can't see whats in front of you?
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14 Mar 2018, 01:53 PM
I find it bizarre at this stage that we have folk not only insisting Griffiths is a superior player but coming out with mince like "ideally Dembele would be doing the things Griffiths brings and the rest."

Are you seduced by his tying scarves to the Ibrox goalposts routine that much, that you can't see whats in front of you?
Dembele definitely needs to be tying more scarves to bits of Ibrox tbf
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14 Mar 2018, 01:03 PM
subtle_anxiety
12 Mar 2018, 08:39 PM
Offft Moussa I take it all back. Finish the season strong, get us into the CL and leave if you must. Or You could just stay for a while
:lol: :lol: :lol: feckin fraud right enough, and its you
Absolutely. Most of my mental posts are during the game when I'm frustrated. I'm sure we have all done it
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Everyone I read Ste’s posts I get this song in my head.

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eff me that is worse than the default Tierney post.

Beautiful :lol:
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Dembele is the best striker at Celtic since Larsson and anyone who can’t appreciate that is just missing out.

I like Griffiths but ‘Dembele should be doing the things Griffiths does”. Jesus Christ. On Sunday alone, try to tell me Griffiths could play that inch perfect first time pass with his weak foot that Dembele did to Édouard, that flick on to McGregor in the second half, or indeed use his brute strength to hold off the Hun centre back before a perfect chip over the keeper.

As for comments about his effort, they’re just laughable and show no understanding about the game or MD as a player. MD is explosive and that requires conservation of energy at certain moments in order to then burst into speed at the perfect opportunities. You see Messi doing the same, he literally walks around at times before sparking into life when he needs to. Only in Scotland could not running about like a binbag be seen as a criticism.
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14 Mar 2018, 01:53 PM
I find it bizarre at this stage that we have folk not only insisting Griffiths is a superior player but coming out with mince like "ideally Dembele would be doing the things Griffiths brings and the rest."

Are you seduced by his tying scarves to the Ibrox goalposts routine that much, that you can't see whats in front of you?
I’m delighted Moussa has started to refund his mojo, but he has been far from wonderful this season. 7 league goals is a pretty poor return for a Celtic striker. At his absolute best you’d play him before Griffiths, but as he has only been at his absolute best a handful of times this season it’s a close call. Griffiths hasn’t been at his absolute best either, but is a great finisher, brilliant at free kicks, will always give 100% for the team and will almost definitely be a Celtic player next season. To try and reduce his contribution to “tying scarfs to goalposts” is an insult to a guy who has been a great player for Celtic longer, and more constantly than Dembele.
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14 Mar 2018, 02:01 PM
Everyone I read Ste’s posts I get this song in my head.

:lol: :thumbsup:

Only when things are going well. When the big man's getting stick I'm on here trynah clap the place up.
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Nobody can deny he was hot and cold at best after new year, but that goal v Aberdeen seems to have really kicked him into gear and I think we'll see the best of him again during the run in. Could easily hit 20/25 goals for the season at this rate as well.

Always looks better with Eduoard playing off him, which is why if he does go this summer I don't think it's as simple as just paying for Eddie and that's that. They bring out the best in each other.
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14 Mar 2018, 02:17 PM
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14 Mar 2018, 02:01 PM
Everyone I read Ste’s posts I get this song in my head.

:lol: :thumbsup:

Only when things are going well. When the big man's getting stick I'm on here trynah clap the place up.
He’s a fine specimen.

I reckon that Griffiths always gets more, but Moussa gets the better quality.

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LondonThomas
14 Mar 2018, 02:11 PM
Hail!Hail!
14 Mar 2018, 01:53 PM
I find it bizarre at this stage that we have folk not only insisting Griffiths is a superior player but coming out with mince like "ideally Dembele would be doing the things Griffiths brings and the rest."

Are you seduced by his tying scarves to the Ibrox goalposts routine that much, that you can't see whats in front of you?
I’m delighted Moussa has started to refund his mojo, but he has been far from wonderful this season. 7 league goals is a pretty poor return for a Celtic striker. At his absolute best you’d play him before Griffiths, but as he has only been at his absolute best a handful of times this season it’s a close call. Griffiths hasn’t been at his absolute best either, but is a great finisher, brilliant at free kicks, will always give 100% for the team and will almost definitely be a Celtic player next season. To try and reduce his contribution to “tying scarfs to goalposts” is an insult to a guy who has been a great player for Celtic longer, and more constantly than Dembele.
For all disappointment of his drop in form in the first half of the season, hes still been better than Griffiths this term. That fact you had to list "always gives 100%" as one of the 3 listed skills kinda sums up my point.

Also, I never reduced his contribution to that buts it clear that some have a clouded assessment of his overall ability based on his antics.

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Gonga
14 Mar 2018, 02:45 PM
Ste
14 Mar 2018, 02:17 PM
Gonga
14 Mar 2018, 02:01 PM
Everyone I read Ste’s posts I get this song in my head.

:lol: :thumbsup:

Only when things are going well. When the big man's getting stick I'm on here trynah clap the place up.
He’s a fine specimen.

I reckon that Griffiths always gets more, but Moussa gets the better quality.

Griffiths has a good 8 digs a game as well. :lol:
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