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Moussa Dembele
Topic Started: 28 Jun 2016, 11:59 AM (860,325 Views)
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10 Feb 2018, 08:49 PM
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10 Feb 2018, 08:39 PM

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A striker being judged on goals? Imagine that.
It's a very simplistic way of looking at it.

Would you rather a striker that scored 40 goals and we won 20 games or a striker that scored 0 goals and we won 30 games?

If the striker is contributing to the overall play of the team and making the right decisions AND helping others to score then it doesn't really matter. Modern football has taken the pressure off strikers in a front 3 to score goals and spread it amongst the front 3 more.
But Dembele really hasn't done that this season, Sinclairs poor form has been excused because he has scored and has more assists than anyone else, but no denying he hasn't hit last seasons standards, instead Dembele has done none of the two :ponder:

No doubt he'll put in a good performance on Thursday as he wants to be noticed!
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Hes carrying weight. Not the athlete he was last season and his touch is honking.
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10 Feb 2018, 09:17 PM
Hes carrying weight. Not the athlete he was last season and his touch is honking.
I wish I could carry weight like MD!
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10 Feb 2018, 08:21 PM
When are the people who watched the game coming on to talk about it?

Dembele had a very solid game today. I have no idea what people are watching.
Solid??

He has been poor all season and at times has looked as if he can't be bothered, Eduoard for me has more about him at the moment, fast, always on the move, looking to get involved and he appears to have the same physical attributes as Dembele and moves around more. Their first touches at times are the same...pretty poor.

Today the best thing that Dembele done was in the 2nd minute after that it was all a bit meh!

I get that you like him but let's not make excuses about how he has been this season based on how his teamates behind him have played!
Sorry - fail to see what he done wrong today.

He contributed to a goal, nearly got himself on the scoresheet and constantly harassed and pressed the Thistle back line which nearly got him a boot in the puss. His touch and hold up play in to feet in the second half was very good and he even got himself into his own half to receive passes at times when we were going backwards - something people wanted him to do last week.

People think he's had a shampooe game because the ball gets lumped towards him and he doesnt win it in the air or bring it down as if that's his game. Go watch all his goals for Celtic. He's not a "big man" striker. He was also fouled more often than not when the ball came in at height but the ref let it go.

I guarantee if he got himself on the scoresheet the thread would read considerably different. People put far too much importance on goals over how the rest of the team play. The issues in this Celtic team are further back than Dembele yet he is the only one who is constantly singled out.
Actually think that it is you who has watched a different game!

He contributed to a goal with a great touch in the 2nd minute and a shot that he blasted straight down the middle where luck meant that the ball fell to JF who scored! An assist I'll give you but through a deflection from the defender!

Nearly got himself on the scoresheet :ponder: when he screwed it wide? Other than that can't remember him being near the goal!

Harassed and pressed??? - FFS even you can see that just because the one time he done that he almost got kicked in the chops is clutching at straws a bit!


We all want him to succeed but to say that he has been other than poor thus far is a lie.

I fully expect him, if chosen, to turn in a stellar performance on Thursday...but he needs to remember that he is paid weekly and not big gamely!
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He was garbage today. Second best to every physical/ ariel challenge.
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10 Feb 2018, 09:17 PM
Hes carrying weight. Not the athlete he was last season and his touch is honking.
His touch for the first goal was sublime.
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10 Feb 2018, 09:24 PM
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10 Feb 2018, 09:17 PM
Hes carrying weight. Not the athlete he was last season and his touch is honking.
I wish I could carry weight like MD!
Are you a professional footballer?

People are kidding themselves on about his performances this season, either because they don’t like being critical of celtic players or because they don’t want to look stupid when he turns his form around :pray: The fact of the matter is, up until this point he’s, in the main, stunk the place out this season and I think attitude has a lot to do with it. I’m hoping he turns it around. It’s a big few months for him. If he fails to improve he’ll end up back in the championship or even worse for him.... still here!
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10 Feb 2018, 09:42 PM
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10 Feb 2018, 09:24 PM
Stringer Bell
10 Feb 2018, 09:17 PM
Hes carrying weight. Not the athlete he was last season and his touch is honking.
I wish I could carry weight like MD!
Are you a professional footballer?

People are kidding themselves on about his performances this season, either because they don’t like being critical of celtic players or because they don’t want to look stupid when he turns his form around :pray: The fact of the matter is, up until this point he’s, in the main, stunk the place out this season and I think attitude has a lot to do with it. I’m hoping he turns it around. It’s a big few months for him. If he fails to improve he’ll end up back in the championship or even worse for him.... still here!
Why would staying at Celtic be worse than going to the championship?
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Every now and again, he does something that makes you remember what he’s capable of. There was a situation midway through the second half today when he got away from his marker with a sensational piece of close control that literally no one else currently playing in Scottish football would be capable of. But he’s generally playing with all the intensity of a pre-season friendly. I think the injury has shot his confidence to pieces. Really hope he can snap out of this.
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I reckon we will see a different MD on Thursday!
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Every now and again, he does something that makes you remember what he’s capable of. There was a situation midway through the second half today when he got away from his marker with a sensational piece of close control that literally no one else currently playing in Scottish football would be capable of. But he’s generally playing with all the intensity of a pre-season friendly. I think the injury has shot his confidence to pieces. Really hope he can snap out of this.
From his perspective, another Hamstring injury this season and you can probably see several clubs lose interest.

We need Griffiths back pronto.

I would even play Edouard ahead of Dembele right now.
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10 Feb 2018, 10:24 PM
One sharp cookie
10 Feb 2018, 09:48 PM
Every now and again, he does something that makes you remember what he’s capable of. There was a situation midway through the second half today when he got away from his marker with a sensational piece of close control that literally no one else currently playing in Scottish football would be capable of. But he’s generally playing with all the intensity of a pre-season friendly. I think the injury has shot his confidence to pieces. Really hope he can snap out of this.
From his perspective, another Hamstring injury this season and you can probably see several clubs lose interest.

We need Griffiths back pronto.

I would even play Edouard ahead of Dembele right now.
If his concern is clubs losing interest, what does he think will happen if he continues playing so poorly? Last season he looked good enough to go straight from us to an elite club. Right now even scouts from lower EPL teams will be looking at him and wondering if he’s good enough to play for them. I’ve seen this happen before to players plagued by hamstring problems.
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10 Feb 2018, 09:52 PM
I reckon we will see a different MD on Thursday!

That's what I think. He's a big game player so like every striker needs is a spark and his is the big occasion.

Play through the poor form. All the best have , then they shine.
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10 Feb 2018, 09:28 PM
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10 Feb 2018, 09:17 PM
Hes carrying weight. Not the athlete he was last season and his touch is honking.
His touch for the first goal was sublime.
Correct.

What the youngster is lacking in, at this particular moment in time (besides match fitness), is confidence.

And both will come, in time.

And, perhaps, concurrently :)
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Shoulda took the 40mil when we had the chance 🙊
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Not great today again. A real real worry.
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10 Feb 2018, 11:16 PM
Shoulda took the 40mil when we had the chance 🙊
The main problem here is that no one ever offered 40 million.
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I re-watched the game with my eye on Dembele and took notes of every bit of play he was involved in that he either touched the ball or directly influenced where the ball went. I tried to be as impartial as possible. The game is on BBC iPlayer for anyone who wants to check it out - everything is time stamped.

I haven't included his chasing down or his runs that he never received the ball from but there was a few that are worth mentioning. For the shot Forrest had in the first half he creates the space for Musonda to run in to by dragging the defender in the opposite direction. In the second half when Musonda breaks and tries to play him in he could have been played in a lot earlier as Moussa had found a lot of space. His overall work rate in chasing down was impressive from the video footage - He's defending from the front for our first goal cutting off space that leads to the turnover to Browns ball over the top.

The biggest thing I noticed is how little we created for him. He dropped deep more and more as the game went on to get involved. Forrest obviously scored a hat trick so who really cares but he didn't do much in the way of creating chances for anyone (3 assists all season).

Another thing is how we looked a lot more comfortable taking throw ins. His movement gave the thrower a target to hit. It was noticeable how long we were taking earlier in the season and how it was disrupting our play.

My opinion hasn't changed. A solid game. A few bad moments but mostly in situations where you don't really expect him to do any better. His work rate was up on the Killie game and he had some very good actions in the game - especially the one that led to the goal.

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I re-watched the game with my eye on Dembele and took notes of every bit of play he was involved in that he either touched the ball or directly influenced where the ball went. I tried to be as impartial as possible. The game is on BBC iPlayer for anyone who wants to check it out - everything is time stamped.

I haven't included his chasing down or his runs that he never received the ball from but there was a few that are worth mentioning. For the shot Forrest had in the first half he creates the space for Musonda to run in to by dragging the defender in the opposite direction. In the second half when Musonda breaks and tries to play him in he could have been played in a lot earlier as Moussa had found a lot of space. His overall work rate in chasing down was impressive from the video footage - He's defending from the front for our first goal cutting off space that leads to the turnover to Browns ball over the top.

The biggest thing I noticed is how little we created for him. He dropped deep more and more as the game went on to get involved. Forrest obviously scored a hat trick so who really cares but he didn't do much in the way of creating chances for anyone (3 assists all season).

Another thing is how we looked a lot more comfortable taking throw ins. His movement gave the thrower a target to hit. It was noticeable how long we were taking earlier in the season and how it was disrupting our play.

My opinion hasn't changed. A solid game. A few bad moments but mostly in situations where you don't really expect him to do any better. His work rate was up on the Killie game and he had some very good actions in the game - especially the one that led to the goal.

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Your clutching mate, hes struggling the now and as much as today was better than Killie it still wasn't great. Vast improvement needed.
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10 Feb 2018, 09:17 PM
Hes carrying weight. Not the athlete he was last season and his touch is honking.
Moussa carrying weight :rubeyes:

I am reliably informed Moussa has a 'physique like an effin Marvel superhero.'

Edited by Wee Ed KTF, 11 Feb 2018, 12:45 AM.
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