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Moussa Dembele
Topic Started: 28 Jun 2016, 11:59 AM (860,361 Views)
remy mcswain
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the point was extremely stupid. if he'd just left it at a snidey "deflection" dig fair enough to but to make a big deal about it being a well worked setpiece routine is petty in the extreme

neither of those goals or samaras were down to luck anyway
The fact it was a set piece routiner means very little was down to Demble's ability. He didn't even hit it that well and it would never have went in if it wasn't deflected.
FFS :lol:

It means his movement lost his man. A defence which hadn’t conceded in 4 CL games.

It went in and that’s all that matters. Larsson scuffed a shot in a Euro semi final once ;)
Edited by remy mcswain, 15 Jan 2018, 07:44 PM.
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The fact it was a set piece routiner means very little was down to Demble's ability.
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The fact it was a set piece routiner means very little was down to Demble's ability.
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the point was extremely stupid. if he'd just left it at a snidey "deflection" dig fair enough to but to make a big deal about it being a well worked setpiece routine is petty in the extreme

neither of those goals or samaras were down to luck anyway
The fact it was a set piece routiner means very little was down to Demble's ability. He didn't even hit it that well and it would never have went in if it wasn't deflected.
Away and drown in your teepee, FFS!
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All people look at, are the record books.



When spending tens of millions on a player? Do they eff. BR had a 6 page dossier on Compper for 1 million.
They’re not going to analyse every goal he scored and deduct the goals which were fortunate or offside.

He’s scored 4 CL goals in two seasons despite missing most of the 2nd campaign.

That’s the stat they will look at.
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Dembele is a very good, young player who could go on to become world class.
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the point was extremely stupid. if he'd just left it at a snidey "deflection" dig fair enough to but to make a big deal about it being a well worked setpiece routine is petty in the extreme

neither of those goals or samaras were down to luck anyway
The fact it was a set piece routiner means very little was down to Demble's ability. He didn't even hit it that well and it would never have went in if it wasn't deflected.
He scores a goal and its nothing to do with his ability because it's a set piece routine.

:rubeyes:

Moussa Dembele scores goals at the top level of club football. This is a FACT.

Is he Mbappe, Neymar, Messi or Suarez? Is he feck. Is Lukaku twice the player of him? Is he feck.
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The fact it was a set piece routiner means very little was down to Demble's ability. He didn't even hit it that well and it would never have went in if it wasn't deflected.
He scores a goal and its nothing to do with his ability because it's a set piece routine.

:rubeyes:

Moussa Dembele scores goals at the top level of club football. This is a FACT.

Is he Mbappe, Neymar, Messi or Suarez? Is he feck. Is Lukaku twice the player of him? Is he feck.
I didn't say nothing, I said 'very little'. Like the opener against City last season I'd put that mostly down to Rodgers spotting where the opposition was weak at set pieces and exploiting it. Both times we absolutely caught them cold with a well worked,planned move.

Dembele is a great young player with bags of potential. If I was making an 'agent video' of his highlights to buying clubs that wouldn't exactly be No 1. He was far better last season and way more effective.
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He scores a goal and its nothing to do with his ability because it's a set piece routine.

:rubeyes:

Moussa Dembele scores goals at the top level of club football. This is a FACT.

Is he Mbappe, Neymar, Messi or Suarez? Is he feck. Is Lukaku twice the player of him? Is he feck.
I didn't say nothing, I said 'very little'. Like the opener against City last season I'd put that mostly down to Rodgers spotting where the opposition was weak at set pieces and exploiting it. Both times we absolutely caught them cold with a well worked,planned move.

Dembele is a great young player with bags of potential. If I was making an 'agent video' of his highlights to buying clubs that wouldn't exactly be No 1. He was far better last season and way more effective.
So the player carrying out the instructions doesn't really matter?
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I didn't say nothing, I said 'very little'. Like the opener against City last season I'd put that mostly down to Rodgers spotting where the opposition was weak at set pieces and exploiting it. Both times we absolutely caught them cold with a well worked,planned move.

Dembele is a great young player with bags of potential. If I was making an 'agent video' of his highlights to buying clubs that wouldn't exactly be No 1. He was far better last season and way more effective.
So the player carrying out the instructions doesn't really matter?
Of course, as did Forrest making a great run and catching the ball perfectly on the volley while running at pace for the City goal. It's nowhere near his best work though. In the CL when he's played, the most impressive thing for me is his ability to play alone up front against top quality defenders. Again, far more successful at it last season. This season he's not ever really been fully match fit at any point.
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The fact it was a set piece routiner means very little was down to Demble's ability. He didn't even hit it that well and it would never have went in if it wasn't deflected.
FFS :lol:

It means his movement lost his man. A defence which hadn’t conceded in 4 CL games.

It went in and that’s all that matters. Larsson scuffed a shot in a Euro semi final once ;)
A perfect example of a very important goal that wasn't anywhere near the best examples you would give to show him being a great player / striker. Cheers. ;)
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FFS :lol:

It means his movement lost his man. A defence which hadn’t conceded in 4 CL games.

It went in and that’s all that matters. Larsson scuffed a shot in a Euro semi final once ;)
A perfect example of a very important goal that wasn't anywhere near the best examples you would give to show him being a great player / striker. Cheers. ;)
That wasn’t my intention with the example. It was just that they all count no matter how they end up in the pokey.

He has same amount of CL goals for Celtic as Larsson too :ph43r:
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Stick.

Injury and lack of game time now that we have a third decent level striker hasn't seen him kick on as much as last season. If anyone thinks scoring for the French u21s doesn't mean anything, particularly an 11 minute hat-trick, is off their head. He's an absolute stick on to get a call up to the senior team.

Let's see what happens after the break.

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When spending tens of millions on a player? Do they eff. BR had a 6 page dossier on Compper for 1 million.
They’re not going to analyse every goal he scored and deduct the goals which were fortunate or offside.

He’s scored 4 CL goals in two seasons despite missing most of the 2nd campaign.

That’s the stat they will look at.
They'll probably look at videos of the goals, mate.

Not downplaying Moussa's CL-contribution at all, I didn't mention the PSG goal being a deflection. They will start with his stats however, if you think potential buyers don't analyse videos and just go "Aye, four goals, he'll do", then you're aff yer nut.
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15 Jan 2018, 07:53 PM
Is Lukaku twice the player of him? Is he feck.
Did Man Utd sign Lukaku directly from an SPL-level league for that insane, ridiculous fee or did they sign him off the back of consistently scoring in the EPL? It's not a fair comparison.
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15 Jan 2018, 07:53 PM
Is Lukaku twice the player of him? Is he feck.
Did Man Utd sign Lukaku directly from an SPL-level league for that insane, ridiculous fee or did they sign him off the back of consistently scoring in the EPL? It's not a fair comparison.
I'm not expecting £75m for Dembele.

Don't worry.
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Ste
15 Jan 2018, 07:53 PM
Is Lukaku twice the player of him? Is he feck.
Did Man Utd sign Lukaku directly from an SPL-level league for that insane, ridiculous fee or did they sign him off the back of consistently scoring in the EPL? It's not a fair comparison.
Unfair in what regard? So far again tonight from watching Lukaku I really dont see him being that much better than Dembele.
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Here's some interesting news...

Chelsea have agreed to let Batshuyai go on loan to Sevilla but he won't be allowed to officially leave until they have signed a "physical forward".

Wonder if they'll come after Moussa.
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15 Jan 2018, 07:53 PM
Is Lukaku twice the player of him? Is he feck.
Did Man Utd sign Lukaku directly from an SPL-level league for that insane, ridiculous fee or did they sign him off the back of consistently scoring in the EPL? It's not a fair comparison.
Unfair in what regard? So far again tonight from watching Lukaku I really dont see him being that much better than Dembele.
Unfair in that Dembele has never played at that level and Lukaku has; it doesn't make sense to say that we should get more than half of what Man Utd paid for Lukaku because one is a proven goalscorer in the EPL and one isn't. Saying Dembele would do better is pure speculation, and that's what I took Ste to have said.
Edited by dannyclyro, 15 Jan 2018, 09:47 PM.
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