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29 Dec 2017, 11:20 AM
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The Scotsman claiming that Celtic "are said to have asked West Ham if they still want to buy Dembele."
A Scotsman 'insider' claims that the Scotsman just completely made that up because a Sevco match is coming up on Saturday.
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29 Dec 2017, 11:31 AM
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Yeah we're definitely going round asking people if they still want to buy our most prized asset after making £10m+ for doing essentially eff all. Of all the things that are happening, that one is happening the most.
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29 Dec 2017, 12:40 PM
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The training fee is either 0.5% or 1% I can’t remembrr which for each year spent at a club between 16-21. Think that’s a fifa rule. It's FIFA's "Solidarity" rule/payments. I thought it was higher than 1% though, closer to 5.
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29 Dec 2017, 01:03 PM
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- 29 Dec 2017, 11:20 AM
The Scotsman claiming that Celtic "are said to have asked West Ham if they still want to buy Dembele."
A Scotsman 'insider' claims that the Scotsman just completely made that up because a Sevco match is coming up on Saturday. Is the correct answer !
They must be confusing Moussa with Morelos and West ham with forest green or some other non EPL team
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30 Dec 2017, 11:19 AM
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Chris Sutton has his say on Dembele and the January transfer window.
If this is Moussa Dembele's last game for Celtic then the club have got it all wrong - Chris Sutton Chris insists Celtic shouldn't be selling Dembele unless someone offers huge money for him.
Spoiler: click to toggle ByChris Sutton Moussa Dembele might well kick his last ball for Celtic today. If that’s the case I believe it is a WRONG move by the club. Unless Dembele is kicking down the doors of Peter Lawwell and Brendan Rodgers and demanding to go, he should not be sold unless Celtic get absolute top dollar from a major club. And he most certainly should not be getting sold to a Brighton for around £20million. Rodgers had made it clear that Dembele is good enough to be signing for one of the top clubs. He should be going for £30m. At the absolute minimum, a fee of £25m. No less. Surely the Virgil van Dijk scenario has taught the club that? I was shot down for saying Celtic were short-changed when Southampton paid them £13m for the Dutchman a couple of years ago, despite everyone else fawning over what a great deal it was. I was ridiculed for saying he was worth at least £20m when the comparison was being made with the amount of money Manchester City were about to part with for John Stones, who in my opinion was not as good now or then. Now Liverpool have backed that theory by paying £75m for him and breaking a world record transfer fee for a defender. I suppose the good thing is Celtic will end up getting almost £20m over the piece in the end with the sell-on. But £13m was never enough in the first place and Celtic shouldn’t take anything less than big bucks for Dembele because I don’t see a real reason to sell. Every player has a price. But £20m is not it for Dembele. Not when Bournemouth are paying £20m for a boy like Nathan Ake who had just 46 top-team games under his belt when that deal was made. And he’s a defender and they’re nowhere near as coveted as goalscorers. Big clubs, in general, do their main business in the summer. Panic buys tend to occur from teams struggling in January. Why on earth would Dembele fancy Brighton? It’s hardly bright lights and the chances are he would be heading down to the Championship at the end of the season where he started his UK career at Fulham. Fair enough, if a City or a United come along and pay the top dollar, sell him. But not to a Brighton. Rodgers discusses a moral obligation to let a player go. I’m not having that. The moral obligation as a manager as far as I’m concerned is to have your team as strong as possible. Nothing else. If it’s just about domestic dominance for Celtic, then fine. But fans really fancy a run in the Europa League and it’s a big chance for Rodgers to have his team make a mark. Selling Dembele would tell me it’s not seen as that big a deal. That’s not to mention Champions League qualification in the summer, which is worth £30-odd million. In fairness, I have found the entire episode recently regarding the strikers at Celtic all very bizarre. Rodgers has been brilliant at Celtic but I’m not sure where he’s been going with this issue. Dembele had injury problems at the beginning of the season but he’s been back for a while and my calculations are that the longest run of starting games he’s had is four. Now I understand about protecting a player when he comes back from an injury. However, in the past 10 games, Dembele has started just two and this is what I find odd. If you are trying to showcase a boy as being a superstar, a potential big-hitter who should be attracting interest from the likes of City and United in Manchester, then how can you do that when he’s third pick behind Leigh Griffiths and Odsonne Edouard? England’s big clubs will be looking at that situation and wondering why he’s not first pick. First name on the sheet. Strikers also need rhythm. You need games. You can’t just turn it on. Dembele is not showing his true potential at the moment because he is in and out of the team. Fans will expect him to just run riot against Rangers today if he starts, which I think he will. But that’s not fair. It’s not possible to hit top gear when you are spending matches on the bench. Griffiths has been in the same boat. He’s been in and out, although he got plenty of football earlier in the campaign when Dembele was out and Edouard was settling in. Now I get that Rodgers wants to give chances to Edouard. He’s a young lad who appears to be working hard and he has potential, even if he looks a bit raw at the moment. But he shouldn’t be playing ahead of Dembele or Griffiths while they are around. There may be various reasons we don’t know about and that’s fair enough. That doesn’t mean the situation can’t look a bit cloudy from the outside but there is one thing to me that is crystal clear. Dembele should not be going unless it’s to a top club for a top fee. Like I said, I don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. I don’t know if Dembele is being a disruptive influence around the place. But if he’s not, and there seems absolutely no reason to think that he is, then Celtic should be holding firm until they get the very top price from one of the very top teams. If they don’t get it, then today’s game against Rangers should not be his last as a Celtic player. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/moussa-dembeles-last-game-celtic-11769442
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30 Dec 2017, 11:44 AM
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- 30 Dec 2017, 11:19 AM
Chris Sutton has his say on Dembele and the January transfer window. If this is Moussa Dembele's last game for Celtic then the club have got it all wrong - Chris SuttonChris insists Celtic shouldn't be selling Dembele unless someone offers huge money for him. Spoiler: click to toggle ByChris Sutton Moussa Dembele might well kick his last ball for Celtic today. If that’s the case I believe it is a WRONG move by the club. Unless Dembele is kicking down the doors of Peter Lawwell and Brendan Rodgers and demanding to go, he should not be sold unless Celtic get absolute top dollar from a major club. And he most certainly should not be getting sold to a Brighton for around £20million. Rodgers had made it clear that Dembele is good enough to be signing for one of the top clubs. He should be going for £30m. At the absolute minimum, a fee of £25m. No less. Surely the Virgil van Dijk scenario has taught the club that? I was shot down for saying Celtic were short-changed when Southampton paid them £13m for the Dutchman a couple of years ago, despite everyone else fawning over what a great deal it was. I was ridiculed for saying he was worth at least £20m when the comparison was being made with the amount of money Manchester City were about to part with for John Stones, who in my opinion was not as good now or then. Now Liverpool have backed that theory by paying £75m for him and breaking a world record transfer fee for a defender. I suppose the good thing is Celtic will end up getting almost £20m over the piece in the end with the sell-on. But £13m was never enough in the first place and Celtic shouldn’t take anything less than big bucks for Dembele because I don’t see a real reason to sell. Every player has a price. But £20m is not it for Dembele. Not when Bournemouth are paying £20m for a boy like Nathan Ake who had just 46 top-team games under his belt when that deal was made. And he’s a defender and they’re nowhere near as coveted as goalscorers. Big clubs, in general, do their main business in the summer. Panic buys tend to occur from teams struggling in January. Why on earth would Dembele fancy Brighton? It’s hardly bright lights and the chances are he would be heading down to the Championship at the end of the season where he started his UK career at Fulham. Fair enough, if a City or a United come along and pay the top dollar, sell him. But not to a Brighton. Rodgers discusses a moral obligation to let a player go. I’m not having that. The moral obligation as a manager as far as I’m concerned is to have your team as strong as possible. Nothing else. If it’s just about domestic dominance for Celtic, then fine. But fans really fancy a run in the Europa League and it’s a big chance for Rodgers to have his team make a mark. Selling Dembele would tell me it’s not seen as that big a deal. That’s not to mention Champions League qualification in the summer, which is worth £30-odd million. In fairness, I have found the entire episode recently regarding the strikers at Celtic all very bizarre. Rodgers has been brilliant at Celtic but I’m not sure where he’s been going with this issue. Dembele had injury problems at the beginning of the season but he’s been back for a while and my calculations are that the longest run of starting games he’s had is four. Now I understand about protecting a player when he comes back from an injury. However, in the past 10 games, Dembele has started just two and this is what I find odd. If you are trying to showcase a boy as being a superstar, a potential big-hitter who should be attracting interest from the likes of City and United in Manchester, then how can you do that when he’s third pick behind Leigh Griffiths and Odsonne Edouard? England’s big clubs will be looking at that situation and wondering why he’s not first pick. First name on the sheet. Strikers also need rhythm. You need games. You can’t just turn it on. Dembele is not showing his true potential at the moment because he is in and out of the team. Fans will expect him to just run riot against Rangers today if he starts, which I think he will. But that’s not fair. It’s not possible to hit top gear when you are spending matches on the bench. Griffiths has been in the same boat. He’s been in and out, although he got plenty of football earlier in the campaign when Dembele was out and Edouard was settling in. Now I get that Rodgers wants to give chances to Edouard. He’s a young lad who appears to be working hard and he has potential, even if he looks a bit raw at the moment. But he shouldn’t be playing ahead of Dembele or Griffiths while they are around. There may be various reasons we don’t know about and that’s fair enough. That doesn’t mean the situation can’t look a bit cloudy from the outside but there is one thing to me that is crystal clear. Dembele should not be going unless it’s to a top club for a top fee. Like I said, I don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. I don’t know if Dembele is being a disruptive influence around the place. But if he’s not, and there seems absolutely no reason to think that he is, then Celtic should be holding firm until they get the very top price from one of the very top teams. If they don’t get it, then today’s game against Rangers should not be his last as a Celtic player. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/moussa-dembeles-last-game-celtic-11769442 Pretty much sums it up, apart from going to a top club, I don't think he's ready and wouldn't get regular starts at a crucial point in his development, like Batshuayi. 30 million and a club where he'd be first choice would be better.
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30 Dec 2017, 12:01 PM
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Chris Sutton has his say on Dembele and the January transfer window. If this is Moussa Dembele's last game for Celtic then the club have got it all wrong - Chris SuttonChris insists Celtic shouldn't be selling Dembele unless someone offers huge money for him. Spoiler: click to toggle ByChris Sutton Moussa Dembele might well kick his last ball for Celtic today. If that’s the case I believe it is a WRONG move by the club. Unless Dembele is kicking down the doors of Peter Lawwell and Brendan Rodgers and demanding to go, he should not be sold unless Celtic get absolute top dollar from a major club. And he most certainly should not be getting sold to a Brighton for around £20million. Rodgers had made it clear that Dembele is good enough to be signing for one of the top clubs. He should be going for £30m. At the absolute minimum, a fee of £25m. No less. Surely the Virgil van Dijk scenario has taught the club that? I was shot down for saying Celtic were short-changed when Southampton paid them £13m for the Dutchman a couple of years ago, despite everyone else fawning over what a great deal it was. I was ridiculed for saying he was worth at least £20m when the comparison was being made with the amount of money Manchester City were about to part with for John Stones, who in my opinion was not as good now or then. Now Liverpool have backed that theory by paying £75m for him and breaking a world record transfer fee for a defender. I suppose the good thing is Celtic will end up getting almost £20m over the piece in the end with the sell-on. But £13m was never enough in the first place and Celtic shouldn’t take anything less than big bucks for Dembele because I don’t see a real reason to sell. Every player has a price. But £20m is not it for Dembele. Not when Bournemouth are paying £20m for a boy like Nathan Ake who had just 46 top-team games under his belt when that deal was made. And he’s a defender and they’re nowhere near as coveted as goalscorers. Big clubs, in general, do their main business in the summer. Panic buys tend to occur from teams struggling in January. Why on earth would Dembele fancy Brighton? It’s hardly bright lights and the chances are he would be heading down to the Championship at the end of the season where he started his UK career at Fulham. Fair enough, if a City or a United come along and pay the top dollar, sell him. But not to a Brighton. Rodgers discusses a moral obligation to let a player go. I’m not having that. The moral obligation as a manager as far as I’m concerned is to have your team as strong as possible. Nothing else. If it’s just about domestic dominance for Celtic, then fine. But fans really fancy a run in the Europa League and it’s a big chance for Rodgers to have his team make a mark. Selling Dembele would tell me it’s not seen as that big a deal. That’s not to mention Champions League qualification in the summer, which is worth £30-odd million. In fairness, I have found the entire episode recently regarding the strikers at Celtic all very bizarre. Rodgers has been brilliant at Celtic but I’m not sure where he’s been going with this issue. Dembele had injury problems at the beginning of the season but he’s been back for a while and my calculations are that the longest run of starting games he’s had is four. Now I understand about protecting a player when he comes back from an injury. However, in the past 10 games, Dembele has started just two and this is what I find odd. If you are trying to showcase a boy as being a superstar, a potential big-hitter who should be attracting interest from the likes of City and United in Manchester, then how can you do that when he’s third pick behind Leigh Griffiths and Odsonne Edouard? England’s big clubs will be looking at that situation and wondering why he’s not first pick. First name on the sheet. Strikers also need rhythm. You need games. You can’t just turn it on. Dembele is not showing his true potential at the moment because he is in and out of the team. Fans will expect him to just run riot against Rangers today if he starts, which I think he will. But that’s not fair. It’s not possible to hit top gear when you are spending matches on the bench. Griffiths has been in the same boat. He’s been in and out, although he got plenty of football earlier in the campaign when Dembele was out and Edouard was settling in. Now I get that Rodgers wants to give chances to Edouard. He’s a young lad who appears to be working hard and he has potential, even if he looks a bit raw at the moment. But he shouldn’t be playing ahead of Dembele or Griffiths while they are around. There may be various reasons we don’t know about and that’s fair enough. That doesn’t mean the situation can’t look a bit cloudy from the outside but there is one thing to me that is crystal clear. Dembele should not be going unless it’s to a top club for a top fee. Like I said, I don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. I don’t know if Dembele is being a disruptive influence around the place. But if he’s not, and there seems absolutely no reason to think that he is, then Celtic should be holding firm until they get the very top price from one of the very top teams. If they don’t get it, then today’s game against Rangers should not be his last as a Celtic player. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/moussa-dembeles-last-game-celtic-11769442 Maybe, Chris, Celtic aren't actively trying to 'showcase' or sell Dembele. Maybe Rodgers is picking players on form, or whom he thinks will do a job against particular teams. He's done it pretty well so far, bar v Hearts when incidentally all 3 were honking.
Which makes your article feckin irrelevant.
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30 Dec 2017, 02:22 PM
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Didn’t look like a 20 million pounds player today
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30 Dec 2017, 02:31 PM
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He should be sold ASAP. No point hanging onto him until the summer when he's not interested.
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30 Dec 2017, 02:38 PM
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Think he’s checked oot tbh
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30 Dec 2017, 02:53 PM
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Not the same player we saw last year.
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30 Dec 2017, 02:54 PM
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Sell before his value plummets. When was his last good game?
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30 Dec 2017, 02:54 PM
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Had a lovely watch on by the end of the game.
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Thought he played well in the 1st half. Didn't do anything in the 2nd.
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Think this was his swan song.
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No urgency to his game this season. He had a great year last season but he's not made it yet. Not close.
Strolling off the pitch at 0-0 was taking the piss as well.
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30 Dec 2017, 03:01 PM
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Getting noticed in the reserves
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Sell before his value plummets. When was his last good game? When was the last celtic good game ?
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30 Dec 2017, 03:01 PM
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....give us a glimmer......
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He was honking and shouldn't have started the day. Played today like a man that knows he is for the off.
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No idea about his commitment but he performed liked he's barely played lately, which he hasn't.
If he's our best striker then he should be playing regulary if he's fit, if he's going then don't play him at all.
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30 Dec 2017, 03:05 PM
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Take the money. Didn’t look like he was interested today
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