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Moussa Dembele
Topic Started: 28 Jun 2016, 11:59 AM (860,387 Views)
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Take into account I would imagine an EPL team would trust a strikers record in the championship than having more value than the SPL (they’d be wrong) and the perception that they can low ball us because we’re pretty keen on making any kind of profit (they wouldn’t be entirely wrong).

I think Dembele is worth £30million. Reckon we’ll cash in at £18million to £20million.
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I made the point above. Of course other recent transfers will be taken into account, but the recurring reference to the McCormack transfer of years ago will be of consideration to buying clubs today am simply ignores other transfers that don’t support such a valuation.

It is a dangerous approach to take - can’thave it both ways. Next time we want to. If a player from down south are we willing to accept that we need to pay at least that amount to get someone of only mccormacks quality? Would never have had dembele or Sinclair if that was the case.
Dembele was out of contract and we were able to get him for a development fee. Sinclairs relationship with BR was a major factor in him signing. He was desperate to leave and Aston villa wanted him off the wage bill.
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Moussa is not going to Brigton, there was no intention of him leaving in this window by either him, his agent or Celtic unless something spectacular arose that suited all parties. Moussa agent Mamadi Fofana has a very good relationship with Celtic and there is a genuine chance he will leave in the summer. His next move will be to a better caliber of team than Brighton.
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My former manager is a Brighton fan. I hate him and I hate his non-entity of a club. Dembele can do so, so much better.
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hazy
25 Dec 2017, 10:11 PM
Take into account I would imagine an EPL team would trust a strikers record in the championship than having more value than the SPL (they’d be wrong) and the perception that they can low ball us because we’re pretty keen on making any kind of profit (they wouldn’t be entirely wrong).

I think Dembele is worth £30million. Reckon we’ll cash in at £18million to £20million.
:lol: aye right. Is that a joke straight from a cracker?
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hazy
25 Dec 2017, 10:11 PM
Take into account I would imagine an EPL team would trust a strikers record in the championship than having more value than the SPL (they’d be wrong) and the perception that they can low ball us because we’re pretty keen on making any kind of profit (they wouldn’t be entirely wrong).

I think Dembele is worth £30million. Reckon we’ll cash in at £18million to £20million.
His record in the Championship is pretty good. Record number of goals in a season by a teenager IIRC. It’s since been beaten by Tammy Abraham but he’s still the second highest scoring teenager at that level.
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hazy
25 Dec 2017, 10:11 PM
Take into account I would imagine an EPL team would trust a strikers record in the championship than having more value than the SPL (they’d be wrong) and the perception that they can low ball us because we’re pretty keen on making any kind of profit (they wouldn’t be entirely wrong).

I think Dembele is worth £30million. Reckon we’ll cash in at £18million to £20million.
Dembele had a great season in the championship, hence why tottenham and chelsea were in for him. We got him as he knew he would get games.
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paddyjoe
25 Dec 2017, 10:15 PM
Moussa is not going to Brigton, there was no intention of him leaving in this window by either him, his agent or Celtic unless something spectacular arose that suited all parties. Moussa agent Mamadi Fofana has a very good relationship with Celtic and there is a genuine chance he will leave in the summer. His next move will be to a better caliber of team than Brighton.
I’m fairly confident he’s not going to Brigton ;)
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I think Gerry Armstrong lives in Brighton too, another reason to hate them ;)
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Dembele is not going to be sold in the January transfer window.

Relax people.
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25 Dec 2017, 10:21 PM
hazy
25 Dec 2017, 10:11 PM
Take into account I would imagine an EPL team would trust a strikers record in the championship than having more value than the SPL (they’d be wrong) and the perception that they can low ball us because we’re pretty keen on making any kind of profit (they wouldn’t be entirely wrong).

I think Dembele is worth £30million. Reckon we’ll cash in at £18million to £20million.
Dembele had a great season in the championship, hence why tottenham and chelsea were in for him. We got him as he knew he would get games.
3 years ago, and he isn’t going to be getting a game for Tottenham or Chelsea now either.

I really hope i’m wrong and we do get a ridiculous fee. Actually i’d prefer we didn’t sell him at all as he’s far better than any alternative we have.

But as much as I love the lad I just don’t see a £20million+ striker running around out there at the moment.
Edited by hazy, 25 Dec 2017, 10:28 PM.
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I have referred to a transfer in the last window involving a club with a fairly similar profile to Brighton ( eg...in the Premier League, Stadium about half our size, awash with unearned cash and a possible candudate at some point for relegation) and buying a player that I assume would be rated significantly inferior to Dembele

If Brighton think £18 million is a fair price for Dembele then the evidence seems to suggest otherwise ?

How would you price Dembele ??

There is no point debating this with folk like CC. They come into the discussion with a negative viewpoint and twist stuff to suit their argument. With regards Dembele, CC has echoed the argument of other kds'ers through the years when talking about McGeady, Wanyama, Forster & Van Dijk. These negative ninnies seem to think the market is dictated by what the buying club is willing to spend and that this isn't effected by all the other deals being made. For some reason, I don't know if it is just Celtic or the whole of Scottish football, we exist in a bubble that isn't impacted by market forces.

It is weird how they talk down the value of their own team and players. They might actually think they are being realistic but they are constantly ignoring stuff and misreading facts to come to their conclusions. Baffling.
Our players compete at a level which is higher than the majority of EPL clubs...deal with pressure way beyond most of the,...play Champions League matches....play in front of a crowd who expect victories ... most are full internationals.

Dembele is a player with serious potential

I never cease to be amazed at the suggested “fees” that we should “accept” from EPL for some of our players when you compare them with some of the deals you see down there....
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hazy
25 Dec 2017, 10:28 PM
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25 Dec 2017, 10:21 PM
hazy
25 Dec 2017, 10:11 PM
Take into account I would imagine an EPL team would trust a strikers record in the championship than having more value than the SPL (they’d be wrong) and the perception that they can low ball us because we’re pretty keen on making any kind of profit (they wouldn’t be entirely wrong).

I think Dembele is worth £30million. Reckon we’ll cash in at £18million to £20million.
Dembele had a great season in the championship, hence why tottenham and chelsea were in for him. We got him as he knew he would get games.
3 years ago, and he isn’t going to be getting a game for Tottenham or Chelsea now either.

I really hope i’m wrong and we do get a ridiculous fee. Actually i’d prefer we didn’t sell him at all as he’s far better than any alternative we have.

But as much as I love the lad I just don’t see a £20million+ striker running around out there at the moment.
He’s a French u21 who gets goals and is on the fringes of the full squad. We will get 30m plus. it might be over 2 moves and involve sell ons but we will do very well from him.

Edited by Willie Wonka, 25 Dec 2017, 10:33 PM.
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25 Dec 2017, 10:23 PM
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25 Dec 2017, 10:15 PM
Moussa is not going to Brigton, there was no intention of him leaving in this window by either him, his agent or Celtic unless something spectacular arose that suited all parties. Moussa agent Mamadi Fofana has a very good relationship with Celtic and there is a genuine chance he will leave in the summer. His next move will be to a better caliber of team than Brighton.
I’m fairly confident he’s not going to Brigton ;)
Like you Jim, I've been cooking all day and now just sat down with a nice bottle of wine. I thought my work was done and you spot my spelling mistake😄😄, anyway there's more chance that he'll be seen in Brigton than Brighton.
Hope you had a good day :thumbsup:
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paddyjoe
25 Dec 2017, 10:32 PM
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25 Dec 2017, 10:15 PM
Moussa is not going to Brigton, there was no intention of him leaving in this window by either him, his agent or Celtic unless something spectacular arose that suited all parties. Moussa agent Mamadi Fofana has a very good relationship with Celtic and there is a genuine chance he will leave in the summer. His next move will be to a better caliber of team than Brighton.
I’m fairly confident he’s not going to Brigton ;)
Like you Jim, I've been cooking all day and now just sat down with a nice bottle of wine. I thought my work was done and you spot my spelling mistake😄😄, anyway there's more chance that he'll be seen in Brigton than Brighton.
Hope you had a good day :thumbsup:
Had a very good day..and still having a nice night :thumbsup:

Sorry...couldn’t resist pointing out that spelling error :lol:
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hazy
25 Dec 2017, 10:28 PM
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25 Dec 2017, 10:21 PM
hazy
25 Dec 2017, 10:11 PM
Take into account I would imagine an EPL team would trust a strikers record in the championship than having more value than the SPL (they’d be wrong) and the perception that they can low ball us because we’re pretty keen on making any kind of profit (they wouldn’t be entirely wrong).

I think Dembele is worth £30million. Reckon we’ll cash in at £18million to £20million.
Dembele had a great season in the championship, hence why tottenham and chelsea were in for him. We got him as he knew he would get games.
3 years ago, and he isn’t going to be getting a game for Tottenham or Chelsea now either.

I really hope i’m wrong and we do get a ridiculous fee. Actually i’d prefer we didn’t sell him at all as he’s far better than any alternative we have.

But as much as I love the lad I just don’t see a £20million+ striker running around out there at the moment.
Depends who you are comparing him to - I certainly dont see a 25m player in iheanacho or a 20m player in andre gray but that the going rate for a young striker who fits the home grown player criteria.

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Brighton are nobodies and he'd be mad to go there.
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I don’t think he’d have come to us in the first place if he was willing to go to Brighton.
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25 Dec 2017, 09:28 PM
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25 Dec 2017, 09:21 PM
Talk on FF is hilarious where they talk about Dembeles agreed cut of the 18mill plus that of his agents cut and other add on fees we would be legally bound to meet. They're trying so hard to reach their goal of Celtic paying Brighton to take him off our hands, absolutely hilarious.
Theyll make more on Morelos because his fee is roughly 10k and he is actually paying them to play. Dembele is on circa 60k a week and we have to give 40% of any fee to his agent and 50% to Fulham and I think even PSG are getting a slice.
Behave yourself ffs 😂
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If you disagree. Then disagree and put your arguments forward , no need to be a smart arse. I hope I’m wrong and your right but I just can’t see it.
He’s shampooe anyway. You sound like a Hun statement mate
Get a effing grip
You think he’s shampooe Get a grip :ffs:
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