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Moussa Dembele
Topic Started: 28 Jun 2016, 11:59 AM (860,389 Views)
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He’s not hit the heights of last season (yet) this year, but as and when he does go anything less than £25m would be a disappointment.
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thegreenwalrus
25 Dec 2017, 05:48 PM
He’s not hit the heights of last season (yet) this year, but as and when he does go anything less than £25m would be a disappointment.
Correct.

When Ross McCormack can be sold for £12 mil plus then we should not be accepting any less than £25 mil for Dembele.
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Does anyone really think Dembele would agree to a transfer to Brighton ? :nono:
and I would be expecting a few bucks more than 18 million.
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I know it's unlikely, but FFS Brighton, a club that should never be in contention for signing our top,players.
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25 Dec 2017, 05:55 PM
thegreenwalrus
25 Dec 2017, 05:48 PM
He’s not hit the heights of last season (yet) this year, but as and when he does go anything less than £25m would be a disappointment.
Correct.

When Ross McCormack can be sold for £12 mil plus then we should not be accepting any less than £25 mil for Dembele.
Ffs. Not the McCormack argument again.
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Brighton are looking at the wrong striker. We have a Turkish striker who would suit Brighton a lot more
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25 Dec 2017, 05:55 PM
thegreenwalrus
25 Dec 2017, 05:48 PM
He’s not hit the heights of last season (yet) this year, but as and when he does go anything less than £25m would be a disappointment.
Correct.

When Ross McCormack can be sold for £12 mil plus then we should not be accepting any less than £25 mil for Dembele.
Ffs. Not the McCormack argument again.
If you were an EPL chairman and were offering £18m for Demebele, only for Lawwell to fax you a short explaination of the McCormack argument you would admit he had a good point and would raise your offer significantly.
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thegreenwalrus
25 Dec 2017, 05:48 PM
He’s not hit the heights of last season (yet) this year, but as and when he does go anything less than £25m would be a disappointment.
Correct.

When Ross McCormack can be sold for £12 mil plus then we should not be accepting any less than £25 mil for Dembele.
Ffs. Not the McCormack argument again.
Why not.

Dembele for me has a much higher ceiling. Dembele will be expensive but he also has a potential high sell on value.

His market value far exceeds the likes of McCormack
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Still think he’ll be gone at the end of the summer window for a handsome fee. After he hopefully helps us through CL qualification and we have a replacement lined up.

He owes us a few more performances tbh thought he was looking at his best after the Hibs semi and Pittodrie but hasn’t really kicked on since then. Saving it for the huns hopefully.
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Haitch
25 Dec 2017, 06:48 PM
Still think he’ll be gone at the end of the summer window for a handsome fee. After he hopefully helps us through CL qualification and we have a replacement lined up.

He owes us a few more performances tbh thought he was looking at his best after the Hibs semi and Pittodrie but hasn’t really kicked on since then. Saving it for the huns hopefully.
Unless he signs a new deal then it's a given that he's away next summer at the latest. I think a club like Brighton will offer 20million or more in this window though and we'll find it hard to turn down.
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25 Dec 2017, 06:48 PM
Still think he’ll be gone at the end of the summer window for a handsome fee. After he hopefully helps us through CL qualification and we have a replacement lined up.

He owes us a few more performances tbh thought he was looking at his best after the Hibs semi and Pittodrie but hasn’t really kicked on since then. Saving it for the huns hopefully.
Nah, I don’t see him risking his next move to play CL Qualifiers for us.

Personally I think he is away in Jan, and that Motherwell tackle has sped things up.

I don’t think he has the same motivation as before and we might be wiser getting the cash and working on a settler squad
for next season and the CL qualifiers.

He’s been awesome, but he won’t be here next year and we need to know what we how much we have to play with for the next rebuild.

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He was class vs aberdeen, worked his socks off. He was busting to get a goal and back on the pitch. Hes gonna skelp more huns soon.
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Ffs. Not the McCormack argument again.
Why not.

Dembele for me has a much higher ceiling. Dembele will be expensive but he also has a potential high sell on value.

His market value far exceeds the likes of McCormack
Because the previous selling price of another player is irrelevant.

Why not compare a player to scheidt and say they are all better than him therefore should go for many multiples of the millions spent on him? Or the buying club could compare him to Larsson, and even taking into account inflation, say dembele is not worth a fraction of what was paid for him. There have been plenty of better players that have went for less than McCormack and his transfer is not the yardstick. It is just trite nonsense that is spouted on these occasions.
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25 Dec 2017, 07:52 PM
He was class vs aberdeen, worked his socks off. He was busting to get a goal and back on the pitch. Hes gonna skelp more huns soon.
Agree. Led the line well against dons. Only thing he didn't get was the goal. He will run riot next weekend.
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25 Dec 2017, 07:52 PM
He was class vs aberdeen, worked his socks off. He was busting to get a goal and back on the pitch. Hes gonna skelp more huns soon.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
Why not.

Dembele for me has a much higher ceiling. Dembele will be expensive but he also has a potential high sell on value.

His market value far exceeds the likes of McCormack
Because the previous selling price of another player is irrelevant.

Why not compare a player to scheidt and say they are all better than him therefore should go for many multiples of the millions spent on him? Or the buying club could compare him to Larsson, and even taking into account inflation, say dembele is not worth a fraction of what was paid for him. There have been plenty of better players that have went for less than McCormack and his transfer is not the yardstick. It is just trite nonsense that is spouted on these occasions.
So exactly how do we decide the valuation of Dembele or any player for that matter? It's not just about McCormack I would say it's any strikers going for big money in the championship.

If we don't use the market then we use his ability and even then as I said he has a high ceiling.



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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
Because the previous selling price of another player is irrelevant.

Why not compare a player to scheidt and say they are all better than him therefore should go for many multiples of the millions spent on him? Or the buying club could compare him to Larsson, and even taking into account inflation, say dembele is not worth a fraction of what was paid for him. There have been plenty of better players that have went for less than McCormack and his transfer is not the yardstick. It is just trite nonsense that is spouted on these occasions.
So exactly how do we decide the valuation of Dembele or any player for that matter?

If we don't use the market then we use his ability and even then as I said he has a high ceiling.

McCormack isn’t the barometer of the market lol. There are plenty of stupid transfers that clubs regret and other clubs would never have made. The market is dictated by what clubs are willing to pay. Makes hee haw difference what value Celtic place on him. If that was the case then sevco would be worth a fortune according to king.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
Why not.

Dembele for me has a much higher ceiling. Dembele will be expensive but he also has a potential high sell on value.

His market value far exceeds the likes of McCormack
Because the previous selling price of another player is irrelevant.

Why not compare a player to scheidt and say they are all better than him therefore should go for many multiples of the millions spent on him? Or the buying club could compare him to Larsson, and even taking into account inflation, say dembele is not worth a fraction of what was paid for him. There have been plenty of better players that have went for less than McCormack and his transfer is not the yardstick. It is just trite nonsense that is spouted on these occasions.
Four months ago, Burnley paid Leeds £15 million for Chris Wood...a NZ international who has played two games years ago in the Premier League and who haS scored about 60 goals in 140 games in the Championship..

I’d happily use that as a yardstick and suggest Dembele is worth at least one and half to two times that figure :thumbsup:
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25 Dec 2017, 06:27 PM
Brighton are looking at the wrong striker. We have a Turkish striker who would suit Brighton a lot more
and they can have him for free
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So exactly how do we decide the valuation of Dembele or any player for that matter?

If we don't use the market then we use his ability and even then as I said he has a high ceiling.

McCormack isn’t the barometer of the market lol. There are plenty of stupid transfers that clubs regret and other clubs would never have made. The market is dictated by what clubs are willing to pay. Makes hee haw difference what value Celtic place on him. If that was the case then sevco would be worth a fortune according to king.
Yes I get that but according to reports Brighton value him at £18 mil. Now we must have our own valuation of the player if we don't accept such an offer. Whether a club is prepared to pay that is irrelevant as the club will clearly have a figure in mind of what they deem acceptable for such a player.
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