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| nakasboots | 25 Jul 2017, 02:27 PM Post #6681 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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£20m!? That's pure merde.
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| reilly76 | 25 Jul 2017, 02:37 PM Post #6682 |
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Getting on a bit
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is it possible that we are at it, making the Rosenborg manager unsure as to what our formation / set up will be? |
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| Jack Thaler | 25 Jul 2017, 02:38 PM Post #6683 |
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Flying North
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Pfftt. What are facts over gut reactions? If he's injury prone, what's Griffiths? |
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| polo88 | 25 Jul 2017, 02:40 PM Post #6684 |
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No, he never trained today. I'm 99.9% sure he will not play on wednesday. A pish state of affairs this is tbh. |
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| reilly76 | 25 Jul 2017, 02:46 PM Post #6685 |
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Aye it is pish. Wishful thinking on my part given the amount of posters with decent contacts saying he is definitely out, but I live in hope. I still think we have enough quality to get a decent result, given what I saw of Rosenborg in their game vs Dundalk. |
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| hoops_2710 | 25 Jul 2017, 03:13 PM Post #6686 |
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First-team starter
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Griffiths is just naughty. 'Injured' is the excuse, we already knew this surely? In 2017 alone Dembele. has been to the London knee specialist, done his hammy against the huns(after just coming back from a different injury) and now he is missing another vital game with the hamstring again. Plus appearances don't tell the whole story here..the important stat would be minutes played. Edited by hoops_2710, 25 Jul 2017, 03:14 PM.
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| Jack Thaler | 25 Jul 2017, 03:17 PM Post #6687 |
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If he's being spoken of as a doubt for next week, and he missed last week, I think he might just be injured. As he was last September, and in January, and in March... Minutes played is useful for measuring a striker's goalscoring record, not his fitness If you aren't fit enough to make an appearance, you aren't getting any minutes. |
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| jimmy123411 | 25 Jul 2017, 03:25 PM Post #6688 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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http://celticbynumberscom.ipage.com/we-need-to-talk-about-leigh/ MINUTES PLAYED for 16/17 season Dembele - 3369 Lee - 2050 Missed through injury Dembele - 9 lee - 16 Comparison of minutes with other players Brown - 4786 lustig - 4132 Armstrong - 3415 Erik - 3199 Thanks to celtic by the numbers for the stats |
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| Jack Thaler | 25 Jul 2017, 03:26 PM Post #6689 |
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You beat me to it! Just coming in here to post those |
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| hoops_2710 | 25 Jul 2017, 03:52 PM Post #6690 |
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This is interesting. I've looked but can't find anything for Tierney. However I'm sure KT has made much fewer appearances and minutes played due to the bad injury he had in the winter. But is Tierney injury prone? No. Is Griffiths? I don't think so. He's just a wideo behind the scenes. Is Moussa? IMO yes. End of story. |
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| Jack Thaler | 25 Jul 2017, 03:54 PM Post #6691 |
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Tierney played 3479 minutes last year. Not hard to find. You're just ignoring Griffiths' actual injuries End of story. Brilliant chat. |
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| Zurawski 7 | 25 Jul 2017, 04:06 PM Post #6692 |
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brendan sounds confident of keeping him for a second season from the press conference clips on sky sports there |
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| IainG | 25 Jul 2017, 04:39 PM Post #6693 |
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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We have goals aplenty in midfield. Having no available strikers is a drawback but far from unsurmountable. |
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| hoops_2710 | 25 Jul 2017, 04:46 PM Post #6694 |
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Wait so KT actually played more minutes then Dembele last season even though he missed months with a bad Injury? That looks like clear proof that these stats really don't mean much in regards to this discussion. The cold hard facts are that Dembele missed multiple games on multiple occasions and will likely miss multiple more. Griffiths wasn't injured all those times. Rodgers even said as much himself I'm sure. |
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| Zurawski 7 | 25 Jul 2017, 04:49 PM Post #6695 |
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how does playing more minutes mean anything given the stats prove that dembele was available for more games than tierney?
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| Jack Thaler | 25 Jul 2017, 04:55 PM Post #6696 |
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One of the months Tierney missed was the midseason break Tierney also started last season as first choice in his position, while Dembele started the season as backup (Tierney started 6/6 qualifiers, Dembele 1/6 etc). The second of Griffiths' injuries last season led into a disciplinary issue All three injuries though occurred during matches, which is why we know they were genuine injuries. It was you who said minutes counted anyway, chief. I was happy with appearance stats. |
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| Jack Thaler | 25 Jul 2017, 04:57 PM Post #6697 |
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He wanted us to ignore appearance stats, and focus instead on minutes played. Now he doesn't like minutes played. Always like his original post was a bit OTT. |
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| hoops_2710 | 25 Jul 2017, 05:13 PM Post #6698 |
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The truth is now that none of these stats matter. Here's the facts : January - injured. Away to visit knee specialist. Back in team for a decent spell of appearances/minutes (whatever). March/ April - injured. Returns for a few sub appearances before starting against the huns in the cup. Cup semi-final- injured. Missed rest of season (although I reckon he would have played if the final went to ET.) Pre-season- few games under his belt and now? ........... Injured. No stats. No noise. Just facts. |
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| lepetitmerde | 25 Jul 2017, 05:36 PM Post #6699 |
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This place is mental these days. |
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| Jack Thaler | 25 Jul 2017, 05:36 PM Post #6700 |
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If you're just going with the facts, why did you ignore August 2016-January 2017, when he was the only Celtic player to feature in every single match? If he misses tomorrow, he'll have missed 10/62 matches since last summer. Injury prone is Derk Boerrigter, or even Scott Brown 2009-2011. We're a long ways from that |
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