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Moussa Dembele
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£20m!? That's pure merde. :angry:
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is it possible that we are at it, making the Rosenborg manager unsure as to what our formation / set up will be?
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brendan Rodgers saying <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Celtic?src=hash">#Celtic</a> "100%" not in talks with Marseille about Moussa Dembélé. French striker a doubt for tomo though - hamstring.</p>— Alex O'Henley (@OHenleyAlex) <a href="https://twitter.com/OHenleyAlex/status/889833118869467136">July 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Missing games due to injury at least 3 times in under 12months is prone enough for me.
mental. especially when brown and sinclair are the only outfield players who have made more appearances than him in the last year
Pfftt.
What are facts over gut reactions?

If he's injury prone, what's Griffiths?
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is it possible that we are at it, making the Rosenborg manager unsure as to what our formation / set up will be?
No, he never trained today. I'm 99.9% sure he will not play on wednesday. A pish state of affairs this is tbh.
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is it possible that we are at it, making the Rosenborg manager unsure as to what our formation / set up will be?
No, he never trained today. I'm 99.9% sure he will not play on wednesday. A pish state of affairs this is tbh.
Aye it is pish. Wishful thinking on my part given the amount of posters with decent contacts saying he is definitely out, but I live in hope.

I still think we have enough quality to get a decent result, given what I saw of Rosenborg in their game vs Dundalk.

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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brendan Rodgers saying <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Celtic?src=hash">#Celtic</a> "100%" not in talks with Marseille about Moussa Dembélé. French striker a doubt for tomo though - hamstring.</p>— Alex O'Henley (@OHenleyAlex) <a href="https://twitter.com/OHenleyAlex/status/889833118869467136">July 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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mental. especially when brown and sinclair are the only outfield players who have made more appearances than him in the last year
Pfftt.
What are facts over gut reactions?

If he's injury prone, what's Griffiths?
Griffiths is just naughty. 'Injured' is the excuse, we already knew this surely?

In 2017 alone Dembele. has been to the London knee specialist, done his hammy against the huns(after just coming back from a different injury) and now he is missing another vital game with the hamstring again.

Plus appearances don't tell the whole story here..the important stat would be minutes played.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brendan Rodgers saying <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Celtic?src=hash">#Celtic</a> "100%" not in talks with Marseille about Moussa Dembélé. French striker a doubt for tomo though - hamstring.</p>— Alex O'Henley (@OHenleyAlex) <a href="https://twitter.com/OHenleyAlex/status/889833118869467136">July 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Pfftt.
What are facts over gut reactions?

If he's injury prone, what's Griffiths?
Griffiths is just naughty. 'Injured' is the excuse, we already knew this surely?

In 2017 alone Dembele. has been to the London knee specialist, done his hammy against the huns(after just coming back from a different injury) and now he is missing another vital game with the hamstring again.

Plus appearances don't tell the whole story here..the important stat would be minutes played.
If he's being spoken of as a doubt for next week, and he missed last week, I think he might just be injured.
As he was last September, and in January, and in March...

Minutes played is useful for measuring a striker's goalscoring record, not his fitness :lol:
If you aren't fit enough to make an appearance, you aren't getting any minutes.
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http://celticbynumberscom.ipage.com/we-need-to-talk-about-leigh/

MINUTES PLAYED for 16/17 season

Dembele - 3369
Lee - 2050

Missed through injury

Dembele - 9
lee - 16

Comparison of minutes with other players

Brown - 4786
lustig - 4132
Armstrong - 3415
Erik - 3199


Thanks to celtic by the numbers for the stats
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http://celticbynumberscom.ipage.com/we-need-to-talk-about-leigh/

MINUTES PLAYED for 16/17 season

Dembele - 3369
Lee - 2050

Missed through injury

Dembele - 9
lee - 16

Comparison of minutes with other players

Brown - 4786
lustig - 4132
Armstrong - 3415
Erik - 3199


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You beat me to it!
Just coming in here to post those
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http://celticbynumberscom.ipage.com/we-need-to-talk-about-leigh/

MINUTES PLAYED for 16/17 season

Dembele - 3369
Lee - 2050

Missed through injury

Dembele - 9
lee - 16

Comparison of minutes with other players

Brown - 4786
lustig - 4132
Armstrong - 3415
Erik - 3199


Thanks to celtic by the numbers for the stats
This is interesting. I've looked but can't find anything for Tierney.

However I'm sure KT has made much fewer appearances and minutes played due to the bad injury he had in the winter.

But is Tierney injury prone? No.

Is Griffiths? I don't think so. He's just a wideo behind the scenes.

Is Moussa? IMO yes. End of story.
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http://celticbynumberscom.ipage.com/we-need-to-talk-about-leigh/

MINUTES PLAYED for 16/17 season

Dembele - 3369
Lee - 2050

Missed through injury

Dembele - 9
lee - 16

Comparison of minutes with other players

Brown - 4786
lustig - 4132
Armstrong - 3415
Erik - 3199


Thanks to celtic by the numbers for the stats
This is interesting. I've looked but can't find anything for Tierney.

However I'm sure KT has made much fewer appearances and minutes played due to the bad injury he had in the winter.

But is Tierney injury prone? No.

Is Griffiths? I don't think so. He's just a wideo behind the scenes.

Is Moussa? IMO yes. End of story.
Tierney played 3479 minutes last year.
Not hard to find.

You're just ignoring Griffiths' actual injuries :lol:

End of story.
Brilliant chat.
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brendan sounds confident of keeping him for a second season from the press conference clips on sky sports there
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We have goals aplenty in midfield. Having no available strikers is a drawback but far from unsurmountable.
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http://celticbynumberscom.ipage.com/we-need-to-talk-about-leigh/

MINUTES PLAYED for 16/17 season

Dembele - 3369
Lee - 2050

Missed through injury

Dembele - 9
lee - 16

Comparison of minutes with other players

Brown - 4786
lustig - 4132
Armstrong - 3415
Erik - 3199


Thanks to celtic by the numbers for the stats
This is interesting. I've looked but can't find anything for Tierney.

However I'm sure KT has made much fewer appearances and minutes played due to the bad injury he had in the winter.

But is Tierney injury prone? No.

Is Griffiths? I don't think so. He's just a wideo behind the scenes.

Is Moussa? IMO yes. End of story.
Tierney played 3479 minutes last year.
Not hard to find.

You're just ignoring Griffiths' actual injuries :lol:

End of story.
Brilliant chat.
Wait so KT actually played more minutes then Dembele last season even though he missed months with a bad Injury?
That looks like clear proof that these stats really don't mean much in regards to this discussion.

The cold hard facts are that Dembele missed multiple games on multiple occasions and will likely miss multiple more.

Griffiths wasn't injured all those times. Rodgers even said as much himself I'm sure.
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how does playing more minutes mean anything given the stats prove that dembele was available for more games than tierney? :comp:
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Tierney played 3479 minutes last year.
Not hard to find.

You're just ignoring Griffiths' actual injuries :lol:

End of story.
Brilliant chat.
Wait so KT actually played more minutes then Dembele last season even though he missed months with a bad Injury?
That looks like clear proof that these stats really don't mean much in regards to this discussion.

The cold hard facts are that Dembele missed multiple games on multiple occasions and will likely miss multiple more.

Griffiths wasn't injured all those times. Rodgers even said as much himself I'm sure.
One of the months Tierney missed was the midseason break :lol:
Tierney also started last season as first choice in his position, while Dembele started the season as backup (Tierney started 6/6 qualifiers, Dembele 1/6 etc).

The second of Griffiths' injuries last season led into a disciplinary issue :thumbsup:

All three injuries though occurred during matches, which is why we know they were genuine injuries.

It was you who said minutes counted anyway, chief.

I was happy with appearance stats.
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how does playing more minutes mean anything given the stats prove that dembele was available for more games than tierney? :comp:
He wanted us to ignore appearance stats, and focus instead on minutes played.
Now he doesn't like minutes played.

Always like his original post was a bit OTT.
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how does playing more minutes mean anything given the stats prove that dembele was available for more games than tierney? :comp:
He wanted us to ignore appearance stats, and focus instead on minutes played.
Now he doesn't like minutes played.

Always like his original post was a bit OTT.
The truth is now that none of these stats matter.

Here's the facts :

January - injured. Away to visit knee specialist.
Back in team for a decent spell of appearances/minutes (whatever).

March/ April - injured. Returns for a few sub appearances before starting against the huns in the cup.

Cup semi-final- injured. Missed rest of season (although I reckon he would have played if the final went to ET.)

Pre-season- few games under his belt and now? ........... Injured.

No stats. No noise. Just facts.





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This place is mental these days.
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how does playing more minutes mean anything given the stats prove that dembele was available for more games than tierney? :comp:
He wanted us to ignore appearance stats, and focus instead on minutes played.
Now he doesn't like minutes played.

Always like his original post was a bit OTT.
The truth is now that none of these stats matter.

Here's the facts :

January - injured. Away to visit knee specialist.
Back in team for a decent spell of appearances/minutes (whatever).

March/ April - injured. Returns for a few sub appearances before starting against the huns in the cup.

Cup semi-final- injured. Missed rest of season (although I reckon he would have played if the final went to ET.)

Pre-season- few games under his belt and now? ........... Injured.

No stats. No noise. Just facts.





If you're just going with the facts, why did you ignore August 2016-January 2017, when he was the only Celtic player to feature in every single match?
If he misses tomorrow, he'll have missed 10/62 matches since last summer.

Injury prone is Derk Boerrigter, or even Scott Brown 2009-2011.
We're a long ways from that :thumbsup:
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