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Moussa Dembele
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Topic Started: 28 Jun 2016, 11:59 AM (860,503 Views)
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PaulieWalnuts67
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22 Feb 2017, 01:39 PM
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- 22 Feb 2017, 01:18 PM
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- 22 Feb 2017, 12:32 PM
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Porto just signed somebody for 20 million, our models are very different.
I'm fairly sure they don't get anywhere near the full transfer fee when they sell a player either. The agents involved will no doubt be linked with a number of clubs and money will change hands routinely. A bit like Joao Mario who went to Inter for over £40m
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22 Feb 2017, 01:49 PM
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4 more years!
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22 Feb 2017, 02:04 PM
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I'm fairly sure they don't get anywhere near the full transfer fee when they sell a player either.
The agents involved will no doubt be linked with a number of clubs and money will change hands routinely. A bit like Joao Mario who went to Inter for over £40m It came out years ago - they only put a percentage of the fee up and only get the same from anything that they make. Think it was the Falcao loan that brought it out.
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Haitch
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22 Feb 2017, 02:33 PM
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According to Craig Burley he's gone in the summer.
Was nice knowing you, Moussa
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22 Feb 2017, 02:37 PM
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Hard to see him staying his full contract.I think he will stay one more year ...Then next summer it will be a pick of whoever he wants.
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Haitch
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22 Feb 2017, 02:45 PM
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Burley's comments in full
He told ESPN: "Scottish football is quite embarrassing at the moment in terms of the standard but he is head and shoulders [above the rest].
"He’s a good player and is young. Chelsea, I’m hearing, are the favourites [to sign him].
"Talking to one or two guys I know back in Scotland, they said he is pretty much nailed on to go to Chelsea and possibly for around £40m."
What an utter arsepiece
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remy mcswain
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22 Feb 2017, 02:49 PM
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- 22 Feb 2017, 02:45 PM
Burley's comments in full
He told ESPN: "Scottish football is quite embarrassing at the moment in terms of the standard but he is head and shoulders [above the rest].
"He’s a good player and is young. Chelsea, I’m hearing, are the favourites [to sign him].
"Talking to one or two guys I know back in Scotland, they said he is pretty much nailed on to go to Chelsea and possibly for around £40m."
What an utter arsepiece It also conclusively proves that Burley knows f all about Celtic or Dembele. He doesn't want to go to an EPL club.
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cody
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22 Feb 2017, 02:56 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle - Zurawski 7
- 22 Feb 2017, 08:02 AM
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Moussa Dembele agent has revealed that the super starlet has his mind set on seeing out his four year contract with Celtic - even if some of the world’s biggest clubs come calling.
The brilliant French striker is one of the hottest properties in world football with superclubs such as Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Chelsea hunting a signature worth in excess of £30 million.
Dembele is a wanted man and bids will hit Parkhead in the summer, but the player’s agent and close-friend Mamadi Fofana has made it crystal clear there is no hankering for a move.
The 20-year-old is perfectly settled in Glasgow and thrilled to be working under the guidance of Brendan Rodgers.
Fofana is clear that a move at the end of the season has never been mentioned and that Dembele is completely at ease with Celtic life.
He explained: “Moussa doesn’t stress. He signed a four-year deal at Celtic and, in his head, he’ll be at Celtic for those four years.
“If he has to leave, that will happen at the right time, but it’s not in Moussa’s head or my head.
“In January, there was speculation, but there will always be speculation if he does well.
“It’s good. It means we are all doing well. The boy is doing well, Celtic is doing well and we as agents are doing the right things for everyone.
“But it’s so important to focus on the right things. Moussa remains cool.
He’s not affected.
“I am not even thinking of the future. I don’t wake up in the morning thinking where Moussa will go in the summer.
“The future does not exist. The past has gone. It’s about being a better player right now.
“The plan with Brendan and the club and Moussa is private, but I can say it will remain the same and it stays the same.
”We are there for the boy to become a better player, for the club to achieve more things and the club wants to keep their best players.
“If Celtic ever wants to sell Moussa, it will be a common decision which is taken between everyone.
“But, at the moment, I can be no clearer in saying there is absolutely no discussion between me and Celtic about Moussa leaving in the summer or even next January.
“We can’t stop people from thinking or talking, but if people can’t see the benefit of Moussa Dembele being at Celtic, there is nothing I can do about that.
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Moussa Dembele. Hat-trick hero against Rangers.
As far as his friend and agent Mamadi Fofana is concerned, it was the day that changed the striker’s life and career forever.
Fofana was aware that not everyone could understand why he would choose Celtic for his ace client.
When the attacker was leaving Fulham last summer, there were offers from more glamorous settings than Scotland’s top flight.
Fofana stood by his principles. He and Dembele believed in Celtic, they believed in Brendan Rodgers and they believed that going to Glasgow was the correct decision.
On September 10 of last year, suddenly everyone else began to share their belief.
At the same time, those doubters realised that pigeon-holing the striker’s talents merely for playing in Scotland was a massive mistake.
Dembele scored a treble against the Ibrox team, the first in an Old Firm league game since 1966, and the sound of the net rippling on each occasion was heard in all corners of the globe.
Fofana said: “That for me was the biggest moment so far for Moussa. The moment that turned people’s thinking outside of Scotland.
“In the weeks afterwards, when I visited places, people would say to me, ‘ah, your boy scored the three goals in the derby. The hat-trick hero’.
“It was something special. Moussa knew it. He knew he had done something which would be remembered.
“I know that Celtic fans have a special memory for Henrik Larsson . He was an incredible player, yet Moussa had done something which the King of Kings couldn’t manage to do.
“I’ve heard the fans refer to Larsson as the King of Kings, so I know that’s his nickname.
“Moussa scored three goals in the big derby game. It’s amazing and people can realise the achievement of that.
“They say it’s only Scotland but if that was the case, every player would come to Scotland and score three goals a game.
“Moussa’s efforts were noted by the biggest of clubs.”
Of course, as everyone knows now, that was just the start.
From domestic football, Dembele eased into the bigger playground of the Champions League.
Two goals against Manchester City in a fantastic 3-3 draw at Parkhead just two-and-a-half weeks after the Rangers super show further strengthened the striker’s standing on the continent.
Fofana didn’t need justification. Neither did Dembele. Nevertheless, it’s nice when it comes along, anyway.
He said: “If the goals in Scotland still doesn’t change a person’s mind, then look at the Champions League. Moussa scored against Astana. Then he scored against Hapoel Be’er Sheva when we were struggling at that point in the game.
“He didn’t score but helped change the second leg in Israel. Then it was two goals against City, then it was an away goal against Borussia Monchengladbach.
“At this point, surely anyone must think, ‘the boy has talent’.
“Brendan Rodgers is correct. You don’t sign a player because of where he is playing, you sign him because of his talent.
“Deals are also made sometimes because of potential.
“Look at Paul Pogba. He cost more than Zinedine Zidane but that doesn’t mean he is better than Zidane.
“It means his value and his potential are worth that.
“You can’t tell me you would transfer other players in other countries for their potential but because Moussa plays in Scotland, he is not admired and you would not do so? No.
“Brendan Rodgers said it quite straight forward. If you think you can fool us because it’s Celtic or it is Scottish football then you are wrong.
“Moussa will only ever leave the club if the price is right for the club and reflects the talents of the player. And that is if he leaves any time soon.
“The story for Moussa could not be better than it is now and I would also encourage any players approached by Celtic to consider the option seriously of joining one of the biggest clubs in the world, with great fans and being managed by one of the best managers in the world.
“Celtic is huge and you only realise it when you go there.
“When you visit the stadium, you feel something special.
“When Moussa scored his second goal against City, I could feel electricity in the crowd.
“I’ve been to many places, massive games, but that night and that stadium is special.
“There are so many things players won’t know about Celtic until they step into the club and feel it, as Moussa has done.”
The accolades are flowing and a call-up to the senior squad of France will be next on the agenda.
The prospect of international aspirations was one situation which Fofana did not have to consider before taking Dembele to sign for Celtic.
He said: “Didier Deschamps is very straightforward.
“He is not influenced by matters or opinion. He is strong-willed, he knows which players have talent and we knew that from the start.”
Celtic, of course, have played their part in all of this.
Fofana knows that without the support of the club, the skilled management of Rodgers, the talents of Dembele’s team-mates and the whole-hearted backing the player has received from fans and staff at Parkhead, the story could not be developing in such satisfying fashion.
Which brings him back to his initial gut feeling when he met Rodgers for the first time and all of this started.
Fofana said: “It has worked out so far the way I had imagined and wanted.
“I’d rather Moussa was playing in Scotland for the first team at a big club such as Celtic than being at an equally big club in a more prestigious league and playing for the Under-23 team.
“What is the point of that instead of Champions League with Celtic?
“As a player and as an agent, you have to use your brain.
“Everybody loves the boy right now, you have 60,000 people singing his name.
“I received a letter from a fan in Japan. One from China. America and Australia. It’s incredible. You only leave a club like Celtic for somewhere with the same dimensions to progress.”
I'm getting goosebumps from a football agents interview
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22 Feb 2017, 03:01 PM
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Billy McNeill - "Mr Celtic"
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Burley's comments in full
He told ESPN: "Scottish football is quite embarrassing at the moment in terms of the standard but he is head and shoulders [above the rest].
"He’s a good player and is young. Chelsea, I’m hearing, are the favourites [to sign him].
"Talking to one or two guys I know back in Scotland, they said he is pretty much nailed on to go to Chelsea and possibly for around £40m."
What an utter arsepiece "I'm hearing" - That fud Burley is henrickmc2 or whatever he was called.
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22 Feb 2017, 04:23 PM
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Still we sing with our heroes, thirty-three-rounds-per-minute
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- 22 Feb 2017, 10:27 AM
If anyone thinks for a millisecond that the board will let him run down his contract you must be new supporters to the club  We all want him to stay but there is not a hope in hell Moussa will be allowed to run down his contract. He will be offered improved terms in the next year or so but if he knocks them back he will be sold. Champions League qualification or not we all know how the strategy works. He won't be allowed to leave for free. I agree. I can't think of any example in the Lawwell era of us allowing the contract of a prolific and highly sought after striker to be run down.
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IainG
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22 Feb 2017, 04:27 PM
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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Anyone who truly believes that Moussa will be here for 4 years are I'm afraid, off their heads. I'm hoping for another year or so.
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22 Feb 2017, 04:43 PM
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- 22 Feb 2017, 10:27 AM
If anyone thinks for a millisecond that the board will let him run down his contract you must be new supporters to the club  We all want him to stay but there is not a hope in hell Moussa will be allowed to run down his contract. He will be offered improved terms in the next year or so but if he knocks them back he will be sold. Champions League qualification or not we all know how the strategy works. He won't be allowed to leave for free.
I agree. I can't think of any example in the Lawwell era of us allowing the contract of a prolific and highly sought after striker to be run down. Ah well Henrik did it? Took someone long enough to mention it.
Our stategy at that time wasn't the one we have adopted now so you can't compare the two. Bring players in young and develop them for healthy profit is our current model. It wasn't the model back then.
I hope Moussa stays for the 4 years but there's not a hope in hell he will be allowed to run his contract down. None whatsoever.
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22 Feb 2017, 04:45 PM
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- 22 Feb 2017, 10:27 AM
If anyone thinks for a millisecond that the board will let him run down his contract you must be new supporters to the club  We all want him to stay but there is not a hope in hell Moussa will be allowed to run down his contract. He will be offered improved terms in the next year or so but if he knocks them back he will be sold. Champions League qualification or not we all know how the strategy works. He won't be allowed to leave for free.
I agree. I can't think of any example in the Lawwell era of us allowing the contract of a prolific and highly sought after striker to be run down.
Ah well Henrik did it? Took someone long enough to mention it. Our stategy at that time wasn't the one we have adopted now so you can't compare the two. Bring players in young and develop them for healthy profit is our current model. It wasn't the model back then. I hope Moussa stays for the 4 years but there's not a hope in hell he will be allowed to run his contract down. None whatsoever. He's absolutely allowed to run his contract down. No one can stop him.
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22 Feb 2017, 04:47 PM
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- 22 Feb 2017, 04:27 PM
Anyone who truly believes that Moussa will be here for 4 years are I'm afraid, off their heads. I'm hoping for another year or so. Another full season would be tremendous.
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22 Feb 2017, 04:48 PM
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Our model has significantly changed since Rodgers came in. I'd still be surprised at him running his contract down however, more because I think if he's willing to stay for 4 more years he'd get a bigger contract somewhere along the line.
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22 Feb 2017, 04:48 PM
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I'd happily accept him leaving on a free after seeing out his 4 years with us.
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22 Feb 2017, 04:50 PM
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Ah well Henrik did it? Took someone long enough to mention it. Our stategy at that time wasn't the one we have adopted now so you can't compare the two. Bring players in young and develop them for healthy profit is our current model. It wasn't the model back then. I hope Moussa stays for the 4 years but there's not a hope in hell he will be allowed to run his contract down. None whatsoever.
He's absolutely allowed to run his contract down. No one can stop him. No one is saying he can't. Certainly not me but if a club wants to cash in on a player 99% of the time they will. And we will. It's just a matter of when.
Here we have our greatest ever asset and people think he will be walking away in 4 years for heehaw? Aye ok.
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22 Feb 2017, 04:52 PM
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Burley's comments in full
He told ESPN: "Scottish football is quite embarrassing at the moment in terms of the standard but he is head and shoulders [above the rest].
"He’s a good player and is young. Chelsea, I’m hearing, are the favourites [to sign him].
"Talking to one or two guys I know back in Scotland, they said he is pretty much nailed on to go to Chelsea and possibly for around £40m."
What an utter arsepiece
It also conclusively proves that Burley knows f all about Celtic or Dembele. He doesn't want to go to an EPL club. Really hope that's true. If we do eventually sell him I'd probably rather it was to one of the really big German/Spanish/Italian teams.
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22 Feb 2017, 04:53 PM
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henrickmc2 and declan93(?) the same person?
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22 Feb 2017, 04:56 PM
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henrickmc2 and declan93(?) the same person? Henrick at least seemed to support the good ghuys. I would bet that Declan doesn't
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