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Moussa Dembele
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Topic Started: 28 Jun 2016, 11:59 AM (860,764 Views)
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29 Jun 2016, 12:10 PM
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- 29 Jun 2016, 11:09 AM
A good article about him: http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11096/10328039/moussa-dembele-to-celtic-why-he-could-be-the-new-romelu-lukaku Moussa Dembele to Celtic: Why he could be the new Romelu Lukaku By Adam Bate Last Updated: 29/06/16 10:50am He's just become Brendan Rodgers' first signing at Celtic but how good is Moussa Dembele? Adam Bate spoke to his former Fulham coaches to find out... "He's a little bit like a young Romelu Lukaku when he first came to Chelsea," says Kit Symons. The ex-Fulham boss has volunteered the comparison and while he doesn't wish to labour the point, it's clear that he's aware of the significance of likening a young forward from the Championship to a £28m player with 60 Premier League goals by the age of 22. "He needs to be pushed a little bit but he could go on to emulate what Lukaku is doing now. I believe that." The player he is talking about is Moussa Dembele, a 19-year-old Frenchman who scored 17 goals for Fulham last season. Out of contract this summer, he's been picked up by Celtic for a bargain fee and the deal represents quite the coup for Brendan Rodgers. Chelsea had been tracking the youngster's progress and a move to Tottenham fell through in the winter. Dembele has pedigree having been at Paris Saint-Germain as a youth player and while he's enjoyed a breakthrough year, the potential has long been apparent. Strong and quick, he scored heavily at age-group level for Fulham. Ray Wilkins worked with Dembele briefly during his time as a coach at Fulham in 2013/14 - the club's relegation season in which the teenage striker made his debut. "Moussa was always scoring goals at youth level, basically because of his size and pace," Wilkins tells Sky Sports. "He was a big boy then so he'd score goals and he'd run." Dembele bullied young defences. "Moussa came in from PSG and made an initial impact in the youth team," adds Symons. "Even then he was a strong lad in his age group with pace and power. He scored a shed load of goals at youth level and looked a real threat and a real player. If anything it was probably a little bit too easy for him within his own age group. "I was manager of the Under-18s and the Under-21s at Fulham and he pretty much missed out on the 21s. He went straight from the youth team to the senior group and that was because he was able to deal with all the demands of men's football." After a quiet 2014/15 campaign, last season was a triumph for Dembele. Despite Fulham's struggles near the bottom of the Championship, he ranked among the top 10 goalscorers in a division not noted for being kind on teenagers. Remarkably, he's five years younger than any other player who reached double figures for goals in the Championship. "He's made that step up really comfortably," says Symons, who was in charge for seven of Dembele's 2015/16 goals prior to his November departure. "It was quite obvious that he'd need to step up and be tested and pushed a little bit. Physically he could handle it without any problem whatsoever. Now it's just a case of him pushing himself to kick on." This issue of motivation did appear to be an issue for Dembele at times. Some Fulham supporters grew frustrated by his performances either side of that proposed transfer to Tottenham, a period in which he scored just once in 13 games. But these dips are to be expected in a young player and Symons stresses the need for careful management. "He had a few opportunities before I took over and then I played him regularly," says Symons. "That's because I knew him and how to manage him. He needed a little rocket here and there and a cuddle at other times to bring the best out of him. He's a quiet lad off the pitch but he's got an air of arrogance too - which is what you want from a striker." So how will he fare in Scotland? Importantly, he will get opportunities - ones that might not have come his way at Spurs. "I saw that he nearly went to Tottenham but I think he stayed at the best place - somewhere he'll play," says Wilkins. "It's all very well scoring goals at U21 level but the most important thing is to play and play against men." He will get that chance at Celtic, following the path taken by fellow former Fulham player Patrick Roberts who is on loan at the club from Manchester City. Symons expects him to seize it. "If you look at his attributes as a player, he's got everything that the top teams are looking for," says the Welshman. "He's got pace and he's a threat over the top, but he's also got the power and strength to play as a lone striker and hold the ball up. He can play as a one or in a two and he scores goals. Everything is geared up for him to be a top footballer." If Dembele can come close to replicating Lukaku's output, Rodgers and Celtic will have a serious player on their hands. This is impressive "Remarkably, he's five years younger than any other player who reached double figures for goals in the Championship."
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29 Jun 2016, 12:14 PM
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Press Conference and CelticTV Interview:
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https://streamable.com/nz22
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29 Jun 2016, 12:15 PM
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- 29 Jun 2016, 12:14 PM
I'm scared to watch pressers with the SMSM.
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29 Jun 2016, 12:29 PM
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29 Jun 2016, 12:32 PM
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- 29 Jun 2016, 12:14 PM
The SMSM are a joke, asking him if he is frustrated he isn't at Spurs the day after he signs for us, ffs
See if the press treated Celtic (in fact, all Scottish clubs) with the awe and wonder they give English clubs we'd be in a far better state.
Instead, they do nothing but talk the league and clubs down and try to find out why good players would want to come here as if it was a mistake.
Arseholes.
Edit, to add: He comes across very well and seems to be a very sensible young guy and says all the right things
Edited by Luca, 29 Jun 2016, 12:34 PM.
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29 Jun 2016, 12:46 PM
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- 29 Jun 2016, 12:32 PM
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- 29 Jun 2016, 12:14 PM
The SMSM are a joke, asking him if he is frustrated he isn't at Spurs the day after he signs for us , ffs See if the press treated Celtic (in fact, all Scottish clubs) with the awe and wonder they give English clubs we'd be in a far better state. Instead, they do nothing but talk the league and clubs down and try to find out why good players would want to come here as if it was a mistake. Arseholes. Edit, to add: He comes across very well and seems to be a very sensible young guy and says all the right things Did that actually happen?
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29 Jun 2016, 12:47 PM
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The SMSM are a joke, asking him if he is frustrated he isn't at Spurs the day after he signs for us , ffs See if the press treated Celtic (in fact, all Scottish clubs) with the awe and wonder they give English clubs we'd be in a far better state. Instead, they do nothing but talk the league and clubs down and try to find out why good players would want to come here as if it was a mistake. Arseholes. Edit, to add: He comes across very well and seems to be a very sensible young guy and says all the right things
Did that actually happen? Aye, they asked him if there is any frustration that he wasn't at Spurs who'd go straight into the CL group stages whereas we have to play qualifiers...
Imagine an English journalist saying similar - "are you annoyed that you're at Spurs who might end up outside the top 4 and struggle for an EL spot when you could be at Celtic and in the CL every year?"
Would never happen. SMSM are obsessed with downplaying our league.
EDIT: Actual wording was -
SMSM : "You had the chance in January to go to Tottenham, they go straight into the group stages this year, is there any frustration there that you might have to go through 3 qualifiers and not end up in the Champions League?"
Moussa: "No"
Edited by Luca, 29 Jun 2016, 12:54 PM.
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29 Jun 2016, 12:52 PM
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Fecking smsm bawbags
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29 Jun 2016, 12:52 PM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep https://streamable.com/d4h0https://streamable.com/nz22The SMSM are a joke, asking him if he is frustrated he isn't at Spurs the day after he signs for us , ffs See if the press treated Celtic (in fact, all Scottish clubs) with the awe and wonder they give English clubs we'd be in a far better state. Instead, they do nothing but talk the league and clubs down and try to find out why good players would want to come here as if it was a mistake. Arseholes. Edit, to add: He comes across very well and seems to be a very sensible young guy and says all the right things
Did that actually happen?
Aye, they asked him if there is any frustration that he wasn't at Spurs who'd go straight into the CL group stages whereas we have to play qualifiers... Imagine an English journalist saying similar - "are you annoyed that you're at Spurs who might end up outside the top 4 and struggle for an EPL spot when you could be at Celtic and in the CL every year?" Would never happen. SMSM are obsessed with downplaying our league. This is a smart young guy, not Steven from the Nissan production line who doesn't understand the difference between Leave and Remain.
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29 Jun 2016, 12:57 PM
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Is he saying in those interviews he got a phone call from David Moyes or someone else?
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29 Jun 2016, 01:00 PM
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- 29 Jun 2016, 12:57 PM
Is he saying in those interviews he got a phone call from David Moyes or someone else? http://visionarysportsinvestment.com/news/celtic-fcs-david-moss-talks-sporting-directors-and-saving-40-million/
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29 Jun 2016, 01:02 PM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep https://streamable.com/d4h0https://streamable.com/nz22The SMSM are a joke, asking him if he is frustrated he isn't at Spurs the day after he signs for us , ffs See if the press treated Celtic (in fact, all Scottish clubs) with the awe and wonder they give English clubs we'd be in a far better state. Instead, they do nothing but talk the league and clubs down and try to find out why good players would want to come here as if it was a mistake. Arseholes. Edit, to add: He comes across very well and seems to be a very sensible young guy and says all the right things
Did that actually happen?
Aye, they asked him if there is any frustration that he wasn't at Spurs who'd go straight into the CL group stages whereas we have to play qualifiers... Imagine an English journalist saying similar - "are you annoyed that you're at Spurs who might end up outside the top 4 and struggle for an EL spot when you could be at Celtic and in the CL every year?" Would never happen. SMSM are obsessed with downplaying our league. EDIT: Actual wording was - SMSM : "You had the chance in January to go to Tottenham, they go straight into the group stages this year, is there any frustration there that you might have to go through 3 qualifiers and not end up in the Champions League?" Moussa: "No" They will only pull that pish with our players. I stopped letting it bother me years ago though.
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29 Jun 2016, 01:06 PM
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if he'd signed for sevco (takes some imagination I know) would they have asked him he it was frustrating he was at least a year away from European football and even then would have to get through qualifiers?
would they eff.
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29 Jun 2016, 01:06 PM
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- 29 Jun 2016, 01:00 PM
Call myself a Celtic fan
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29 Jun 2016, 01:47 PM
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I'm new. Be gentle.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep https://streamable.com/d4h0https://streamable.com/nz22The SMSM are a joke, asking him if he is frustrated he isn't at Spurs the day after he signs for us , ffs See if the press treated Celtic (in fact, all Scottish clubs) with the awe and wonder they give English clubs we'd be in a far better state. Instead, they do nothing but talk the league and clubs down and try to find out why good players would want to come here as if it was a mistake. Arseholes. Edit, to add: He comes across very well and seems to be a very sensible young guy and says all the right things
Did that actually happen?
Aye, they asked him if there is any frustration that he wasn't at Spurs who'd go straight into the CL group stages whereas we have to play qualifiers... Imagine an English journalist saying similar - "are you annoyed that you're at Spurs who might end up outside the top 4 and struggle for an EL spot when you could be at Celtic and in the CL every year?" Would never happen. SMSM are obsessed with downplaying our league. EDIT: Actual wording was - SMSM : "You had the chance in January to go to Tottenham, they go straight into the group stages this year, is there any frustration there that you might have to go through 3 qualifiers and not end up in the Champions League?" Moussa: "No" Fair play to the kid, shoots them down with an emphatic NO
SMSM are just pissed that another Celtic signing eluded them til it was completed. Aren't GOOD journalists supposed to have contacts?
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29 Jun 2016, 02:02 PM
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Welcome to our club Moussa
PS don't read the Scottish press - they're all bitter Hun/zombie bandits or soup taking Uncle Tims - just talk to the club's media people
Do the business on the park and you will be a hero and in a few years be able to join any club you want! - though hopefully you stay with us as long as possible like KoK
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29 Jun 2016, 02:07 PM
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The SMSM are a joke, asking him if he is frustrated he isn't at Spurs the day after he signs for us , ffs See if the press treated Celtic (in fact, all Scottish clubs) with the awe and wonder they give English clubs we'd be in a far better state. Instead, they do nothing but talk the league and clubs down and try to find out why good players would want to come here as if it was a mistake. Arseholes. Edit, to add: He comes across very well and seems to be a very sensible young guy and says all the right things
Did that actually happen? KT's presser opened with "Was a move on your mind? You could have got a move to a bigger club in England."
If they could pull their tongues oot England's arsehole and stop trying to sell our players that'd be grand.
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29 Jun 2016, 02:09 PM
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Aye, they asked him if there is any frustration that he wasn't at Spurs who'd go straight into the CL group stages whereas we have to play qualifiers... Imagine an English journalist saying similar - "are you annoyed that you're at Spurs who might end up outside the top 4 and struggle for an EL spot when you could be at Celtic and in the CL every year?" Would never happen. SMSM are obsessed with downplaying our league. EDIT: Actual wording was - SMSM : "You had the chance in January to go to Tottenham, they go straight into the group stages this year, is there any frustration there that you might have to go through 3 qualifiers and not end up in the Champions League?" Moussa: "No"
Fair play to the kid, shoots them down with an emphatic NO SMSM are just pissed that another Celtic signing eluded them til it was completed. Aren't GOOD journalists supposed to have contacts? If you say it enough it becomes true - we have people massively exaggerate the quality in England and massively down play the quality in ours. We're terrible for it. Shows what marketing can do.
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29 Jun 2016, 02:13 PM
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To the tune of "off to wembley"
Dembele Dembele Scoring goals for Glasgow Celtic Our Bhoy Moussa dembele!
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29 Jun 2016, 02:34 PM
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You know when the SMSM are asking that type of question they're beeling inside.
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