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Moussa Dembele
Topic Started: 28 Jun 2016, 11:59 AM (860,528 Views)
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31 Jan 2017, 03:20 PM
He's not going to London just for the scan. If he's going there to have his knee seen to, it's to talk with the specialist, have it physically examined and then perhaps scanned.
or he has had a scan and a specialist(scans are emailed these days) is reviewing and doing a patient review at same time as scan alone is only half the story
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Maybe he is in London because he found a clue and secret treasure map in the attic of James Forrest maw's house.

Who gives a eff.

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31 Jan 2017, 02:28 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 01:43 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 01:35 PM

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Dembele and Sinclair yeah?.....
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Players are out there at the correct prices. We've a good-to-excellent track record of finding them.
Aye, absolutely outstanding business, but genuinely, did you expect either Dembele or Sinclair to make such an impact as soon as they did.

My point is, to make a serious assault on getting out of the CL group stages, what's the minimum price we would need to pay for a player(s) who's already making an impact for the current team and would be expected to do the same were they to sign for Celtic, with a view to progression in the CL.....what would be the realistic starting price of that ambition.

Sumbdy already suggested 5 - 6 million a player. I think it would have to be double that in todays markets and then min £25k a week, over a 3 year contract. Buying 5 - 6 million pound players and yeah we'll romp the SPFL forever, not convinced it would significantly enhance our chances for last 16 progression.
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31 Jan 2017, 01:39 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 01:34 PM
Forrest doesn't quite cut the mustard
He never has.
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31 Jan 2017, 01:44 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 01:25 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 01:01 PM

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If we sell Dembele now then fail to qualify next season due to not having replaced him then there goes the 30m.

We also need to fathom in the money we've spent on wages for Toure, Dembele and Sinclair this season.

Not convinced we will reinvest that money in the squad.

And going by BR's demeanour in terms of his comments on our transfer activity this month reading between the lines he feels let down which doesn't fill me with optimism that our board will reinvest in the top quality we need to keep making progress.

We will discuss the charity bet if it does happen :thumbsup:

I hope Dembele stays - I don't want the money

Going off on tangents and trying to qualify your statement.

Most of us can see the best scenario would be to keep Dembele - Get the CL group stages next season and the dosh therefrom and if we have to sell him then sell in Summer 2018 but that is not what you said in your initial post.

So your £6m comment - Sticking by it?
Yeah, if you want.

Just add the £6m onto our average summer spend considering we will have ST money in by then. The £6m must be in fees - not wages.

Unlikely he will go tonight though :thumbsup:
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31 Jan 2017, 03:38 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 03:30 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 03:17 PM

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What kind of injuries do they have?
Commons was down in London last week with a back issue.
Didn't realise he collected old magazines.
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Commons was down in London last week with a back issue.
Didn't realise he collected old magazines.
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Commons was down in London last week with a back issue.
Didn't realise he collected old magazines.
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Commons was down in London last week with a back issue.
Didn't realise he collected old magazines.
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31 Jan 2017, 03:50 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 01:44 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 01:25 PM

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Going off on tangents and trying to qualify your statement.

Most of us can see the best scenario would be to keep Dembele - Get the CL group stages next season and the dosh therefrom and if we have to sell him then sell in Summer 2018 but that is not what you said in your initial post.

So your £6m comment - Sticking by it?
Yeah, if you want.

Just add the £6m onto our average summer spend considering we will have ST money in by then. The £6m must be in fees - not wages.

Unlikely he will go tonight though :thumbsup:
People usually beep when they reverse this bad.

;)
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31 Jan 2017, 04:04 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 03:50 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 01:44 PM

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Yeah, if you want.

Just add the £6m onto our average summer spend considering we will have ST money in by then. The £6m must be in fees - not wages.

Unlikely he will go tonight though :thumbsup:
People usually beep when they reverse this bad.

;)
It's a hard one to work out though :lol:

Moussa will still be a hunskelper for the foreseeable future anyway :ph43r:
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I reckon we'll sell him for 25-30m to Chelsea in June with some add-ons included. £10m of the £40m to me was just danger money for it being so close to the end of the window.
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31 Jan 2017, 03:38 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 03:17 PM

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What kind of injuries do they have?
Commons was down in London last week with a back issue.
Of which paper?

Edit: Jeez, you have to be quick around here!
Edited by kellybhoy, 31 Jan 2017, 04:20 PM.
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31 Jan 2017, 03:48 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 02:28 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 01:43 PM

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:thumbsup:

Players are out there at the correct prices. We've a good-to-excellent track record of finding them.
Aye, absolutely outstanding business, but genuinely, did you expect either Dembele or Sinclair to make such an impact as soon as they did.

My point is, to make a serious assault on getting out of the CL group stages, what's the minimum price we would need to pay for a player(s) who's already making an impact for the current team and would be expected to do the same were they to sign for Celtic, with a view to progression in the CL.....what would be the realistic starting price of that ambition.

Sumbdy already suggested 5 - 6 million a player. I think it would have to be double that in todays markets and then min £25k a week, over a 3 year contract. Buying 5 - 6 million pound players and yeah we'll romp the SPFL forever, not convinced it would significantly enhance our chances for last 16 progression.
There's a lot of nonsense and made-up figures floated around about transfer fees and players' wages, so you never know....but I'd instinctively say that if you're talking about a player who commands a £10million+ transfer fee then you're not going to get him for anywhere near £25k a week in wages.
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31 Jan 2017, 03:48 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 02:28 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 01:43 PM

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:thumbsup:

Players are out there at the correct prices. We've a good-to-excellent track record of finding them.
Aye, absolutely outstanding business, but genuinely, did you expect either Dembele or Sinclair to make such an impact as soon as they did.

My point is, to make a serious assault on getting out of the CL group stages, what's the minimum price we would need to pay for a player(s) who's already making an impact for the current team and would be expected to do the same were they to sign for Celtic, with a view to progression in the CL.....what would be the realistic starting price of that ambition.

Sumbdy already suggested 5 - 6 million a player. I think it would have to be double that in todays markets and then min £25k a week, over a 3 year contract. Buying 5 - 6 million pound players and yeah we'll romp the SPFL forever, not convinced it would significantly enhance our chances for last 16 progression.
It's a myth promoted by Hun Poodle media since the 1990s that Scottish clubs need to spend big money they can't afford to get players that make an instant impact.

We won't be signing players already established at big clubs. We'll continue to sign players with something to prove or up and coming stars. Previous signings have shown they can make and instant and major impact.
Edited by oneillsrevolution, 31 Jan 2017, 04:31 PM.
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Commons was down in London last week with a back issue.
Didn't realise he collected old magazines.
:lol: very witty.
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31 Jan 2017, 04:21 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 03:48 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 02:28 PM

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Aye, absolutely outstanding business, but genuinely, did you expect either Dembele or Sinclair to make such an impact as soon as they did.

My point is, to make a serious assault on getting out of the CL group stages, what's the minimum price we would need to pay for a player(s) who's already making an impact for the current team and would be expected to do the same were they to sign for Celtic, with a view to progression in the CL.....what would be the realistic starting price of that ambition.

Sumbdy already suggested 5 - 6 million a player. I think it would have to be double that in todays markets and then min £25k a week, over a 3 year contract. Buying 5 - 6 million pound players and yeah we'll romp the SPFL forever, not convinced it would significantly enhance our chances for last 16 progression.
There's a lot of nonsense and made-up figures floated around about transfer fees and players' wages, so you never know....but I'd instinctively say that if you're talking about a player who commands a £10million+ transfer fee then you're not going to get him for anywhere near £25k a week in wages.
Yup, agree. Don't know what the min weekly would be for a 10 million player....beyond our current wage structure and there's the dilemma were we ever to consider pushing the boat oot!.
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31 Jan 2017, 04:34 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 04:21 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 03:48 PM

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There's a lot of nonsense and made-up figures floated around about transfer fees and players' wages, so you never know....but I'd instinctively say that if you're talking about a player who commands a £10million+ transfer fee then you're not going to get him for anywhere near £25k a week in wages.
Yup, agree. Don't know what the min weekly would be for a 10 million player....beyond our current wage structure and there's the dilemma were we ever to consider pushing the boat oot!.
Sorry, added a wee edit after you posted:

We'll very rarely sign players already established at big European clubs and already on big wages (unless they're on the way out like Sinclair). We'll continue to sign players with something to prove or up and coming stars. Previous signings have shown they can make and instant and major impact. Some, perhaps most, will be moved on at profit before their initial contract expires (Wanyama, Van Dijk, Dembele) and the process will be restarted. We'll supplement that with players from our own youth system (McGregor and Tierney) and the best Scottish players who'll level out a Celtic (Brown, Griffiths, Armstrong). It's actually a very methodical system thats now producing the goods. We have developed a culture of scouting, improving and selling on younger European/African players for major fees. You know who would love to have thus type of system - it takes years to develop.

Rodgers said the other day he is interested in developing a team, and its not about relying on the brilliance of one player. Our progress in the CL is dependent on getting on keeping Rodgers and getting an excellent group of excellent players together at one time and carrying luck. Its cyclical - Ajax in 1995 for example.
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Even for 40 million, id be sad to see him go. I'd like to see us build a really strong team for CL, and make a great go of it.
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31 Jan 2017, 03:48 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 02:28 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 01:43 PM

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:thumbsup:

Players are out there at the correct prices. We've a good-to-excellent track record of finding them.
Aye, absolutely outstanding business, but genuinely, did you expect either Dembele or Sinclair to make such an impact as soon as they did.

My point is, to make a serious assault on getting out of the CL group stages, what's the minimum price we would need to pay for a player(s) who's already making an impact for the current team and would be expected to do the same were they to sign for Celtic, with a view to progression in the CL.....what would be the realistic starting price of that ambition.

Sumbdy already suggested 5 - 6 million a player. I think it would have to be double that in todays markets and then min £25k a week, over a 3 year contract. Buying 5 - 6 million pound players and yeah we'll romp the SPFL forever, not convinced it would significantly enhance our chances for last 16 progression.
I don't think making the last 16 is something we aim for. Our main aim each season is to make the groups, bank the cheque and compete with the best over 6 matches.

I think people are getting carried away with our appearance in the CL group stage this year. We need to make the groups consistently first before we can think about taking the next step. Sometimes with a bit of luck and an easier draw than the previous 2 times, we've made it, we might get to the last 16 but the way finances for the top clubs in Europe are going, I just can't see it.

Edit - I read your post wrong the first time, sorry I'm away for a lie down :doh:
Edited by dazabhoy67, 31 Jan 2017, 05:20 PM.
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