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Moussa Dembele
Topic Started: 28 Jun 2016, 11:59 AM (860,531 Views)
Milton
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I honestly can't see anyone bidding more than £20m for him at this point. Not buying this story at all. :lol:
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Maleys Spirit
31 Jan 2017, 01:19 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 01:18 PM
:lol: Is there any genuine evidence that there has even been interest in Dembele? Can't see it anywhere! A bid of £15m is realistic.
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31 Jan 2017, 01:16 PM
Can anyone identify these 6 x £5m players that we could get from Dembele sale who would improve the team and (crucially) come to Celtic? Get a grip! Snodgrass went for £10m and he is nothing to write home about. There are dozens of other examples - Andros Townsend anyone? Calum Wilson (who ruptured his anterior crucuate) is now being touted as a £20m player!!! It isn't much different in the EFL or abroad - you're deluded if you think otherwise.

Someone mentioned Joe Allen - he went for £13m and will be earning in excess of £40k per week plus bonuses. That'd be at least £21m thrown away in four years on one player!

I mentioned elsewhere that a former EPL director is saying that Dembele could easily go for £50m plus next year. It'd be stupid to cash in now. We have to stick to the model of developing raw and under-valued talent to extract maximum value - there is no way Dembele has reached maximum value.
I can't see him ever hitting the £50m mark while he is still with us. He'd need to score 6 or more goals in the CL next season to even come close to that figure.

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31 Jan 2017, 12:58 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 12:46 PM
Does anyone really believe Moussa is in London to see a knee specialist?

Don't think so!!!!!!

I do.
Sounds like a lame excuse to me.
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31 Jan 2017, 01:01 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 12:36 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 12:31 PM

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If we sell Dembele there's no way all that money will be re-invested.

BR will be lucky to see £6m of that
We have a great season with CL group stage dosh banked and if in addition we sell our most valuable asset for mega, mega dosh in terms of our financial base you expect Rodgers will be lucky to get £6m to improve the squad?

Do you want a kds charity bet that if Dembele is sold we spend more than £6m?
If we sell Dembele now then fail to qualify next season due to not having replaced him then there goes the 30m.

We also need to fathom in the money we've spent on wages for Toure, Dembele and Sinclair this season.

Not convinced we will reinvest that money in the squad.

And going by BR's demeanour in terms of his comments on our transfer activity this month reading between the lines he feels let down which doesn't fill me with optimism that our board will reinvest in the top quality we need to keep making progress.

We will discuss the charity bet if it does happen :thumbsup:

I hope Dembele stays - I don't want the money

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Related question....but slightly "askew"

Lets say Dembele goes for £35 million.

Realistically, aside from needing to replace Dembele, how many players and in what positions do you think the current team would need, to really compete to get to last 16 of CL.

What's the minimum price we would have to pay for that kind of impact, slots right in, hits the ground running, type of player.

What would be the minimum weekly wage for such players, say over a 3 year contract.
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Sheshoon
31 Jan 2017, 01:03 PM
We sell Dembele for 35 million, we diminish our attacking edge significantly, for the CL qualies.
He was hardly the key to us qualifying though. 2 goals out of the 11 we scored, started (and subbed off) in first 3, came on as a sub in the final 3.

I don't actually think he's going in this window but it's daft to suggest that him leaving would be a death blow to our chances of qualifying.
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The other factor if there is any truth in this is the player himself. He won`t go to Chelsea to sit on their bench, he could have done that at the start of the season with a biggish English club. He wants to play and he knows he`ll make stupid ( or even stupider) money down the line.
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31 Jan 2017, 01:26 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 01:03 PM
We sell Dembele for 35 million, we diminish our attacking edge significantly, for the CL qualies.
He was hardly the key to us qualifying though. 2 goals out of the 11 we scored, started (and subbed off) in first 3, came on as a sub in the final 3.

I don't actually think he's going in this window but it's daft to suggest that him leaving would be a death blow to our chances of qualifying.
It's not daft considering he's now at the stage where he practically plays every game. We would need to bed in a new striker over the qualifiers and it took time for Moussa to settle. Again if we're looking for quality then most of those players tend to be on holiday when we play our qualifiers as the top leagues don't start back till nearer September. Griffiths is out the picture and doesn't look like getting back in anytime soon, if ever.

Edited by Kingslim, 31 Jan 2017, 01:30 PM.
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Sheshoon
31 Jan 2017, 01:26 PM
Related question....but slightly "askew"

Lets say Dembele goes for £35 million.

Realistically, aside from needing to replace Dembele, how many players and in what positions do you think the current team would need, to really compete to get to last 16 of CL.

What's the minimum price we would have to pay for that kind of impact, slots right in, hits the ground running, type of player.

What would be the minimum weekly wage for such players, say over a 3 year contract.
Another striker, a central defender, a central midfielder and possibly a right winger. £4-5m each. £25k+ wages each.
Edited by Milton, 31 Jan 2017, 01:34 PM.
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31 Jan 2017, 01:19 PM
I'm concerned more about the scan on his knee than losing him - hopefully nothing serious.
Surely someone on here works for the NHS and can do a quick search and see if the scan today is baloney or not.
I'm not being serious. You will get the sack
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31 Jan 2017, 01:19 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 01:18 PM
:lol: Is there any genuine evidence that there has even been interest in Dembele? Can't see it anywhere! A bid of £15m is realistic.
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Milton
31 Jan 2017, 01:29 PM
Sheshoon
31 Jan 2017, 01:26 PM
Related question....but slightly "askew"

Lets say Dembele goes for £35 million.

Realistically, aside from needing to replace Dembele, how many players and in what positions do you think the current team would need, to really compete to get to last 16 of CL.

What's the minimum price we would have to pay for that kind of impact, slots right in, hits the ground running, type of player.

What would be the minimum weekly wage for such players, say over a 3 year contract.
Another striker, a central defender, a central midfielder and possibly a right back. £4-5m each. £25k+ wages each.
I'd say we need an upgrade on the wings as well.
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31 Jan 2017, 01:33 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 01:29 PM
Sheshoon
31 Jan 2017, 01:26 PM
Related question....but slightly "askew"

Lets say Dembele goes for £35 million.

Realistically, aside from needing to replace Dembele, how many players and in what positions do you think the current team would need, to really compete to get to last 16 of CL.

What's the minimum price we would have to pay for that kind of impact, slots right in, hits the ground running, type of player.

What would be the minimum weekly wage for such players, say over a 3 year contract.
Another striker, a central defender, a central midfielder and possibly a right back. £4-5m each. £25k+ wages each.
I'd say we need an upgrade on the wings as well.
Agreed. Right back was supposed to read right winger. Forrest doesn't quite cut the mustard and Roberts is going.
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Sheshoon
31 Jan 2017, 01:26 PM
Related question....but slightly "askew"

Lets say Dembele goes for £35 million.

Realistically, aside from needing to replace Dembele, how many players and in what positions do you think the current team would need, to really compete to get to last 16 of CL.

What's the minimum price we would have to pay for that kind of impact, slots right in, hits the ground running, type of player.

What would be the minimum weekly wage for such players, say over a 3 year contract.
We paid £500,000 and £3.4m for this seasons 'hit the ground running' players :thumbsup:

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31 Jan 2017, 01:26 PM
The other factor if there is any truth in this is the player himself. He won`t go to Chelsea to sit on their bench, he could have done that at the start of the season with a biggish English club. He wants to play and he knows he`ll make stupid ( or even stupider) money down the line.
Don't know- he'll be asking himself, what if he makes a breakthrough there? While earning in a week what he gets in a month with us, probably.
Understandable if his head gets turned.
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31 Jan 2017, 01:26 PM
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31 Jan 2017, 01:03 PM
We sell Dembele for 35 million, we diminish our attacking edge significantly, for the CL qualies.
He was hardly the key to us qualifying though. 2 goals out of the 11 we scored, started (and subbed off) in first 3, came on as a sub in the final 3.

I don't actually think he's going in this window but it's daft to suggest that him leaving would be a death blow to our chances of qualifying.
Never said Dembele was key to us qualifying through last year, but regardless of how important or not we think Dembele was to last years CL campaign, I doubt Chelsea are valuing him solely based on his performances against SPFL competition.

Also, I'm more interested in the difference and contribution he could make to this years CL campaign.
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31 Jan 2017, 01:29 PM
Sheshoon
31 Jan 2017, 01:26 PM
Related question....but slightly "askew"

Lets say Dembele goes for £35 million.

Realistically, aside from needing to replace Dembele, how many players and in what positions do you think the current team would need, to really compete to get to last 16 of CL.

What's the minimum price we would have to pay for that kind of impact, slots right in, hits the ground running, type of player.

What would be the minimum weekly wage for such players, say over a 3 year contract.
Another striker, a central defender, a central midfielder and possibly a right winger. £4-5m each. £25k+ wages each.


There is a few right wingers on the US politics thread that we could keep for free
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31 Jan 2017, 01:34 PM
Forrest doesn't quite cut the mustard
He never has.
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31 Jan 2017, 01:06 PM
I'd rather we didn't sell our best players but £35m/£40m is an obscene amount of money anywhere in football never mind in the SPFL.

Ideally I'd love him to stay and be part of next seasons Champions League squad but let him go if the price is right on the basis we don't qualify and need to plug a gap in the finances.
I really can't understand why so many people are willing to accept a big offer for Dembele.

If we keep our best players, we're more likely to qualify for the CL regularly. If we qualify regularly, we'll attract even better players. If we attract even better players, we're more likely to reach the Last 16 regularly. If we reach the Last 16 regularly we'll attract the very best players. And then, who knows what we might achieve.
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