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| raisedacelt | 31 Jan 2017, 12:25 PM Post #5021 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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Liverpool hierarchy had a major say on signings |
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| FergusMcGrain | 31 Jan 2017, 12:26 PM Post #5022 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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Dembele has a massive say in all this. If Chelsea have met the valuation and Dembele wants to talk with them, then I think we have to let it happen. He will leave us at some point in the near future and as long as Brendan gets a very large slice of the pie to spend, then so be it. |
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| doctorgerhardkapl | 31 Jan 2017, 12:28 PM Post #5023 |
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Twilight of career.
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My main concern is BR is going to look at £30m he's brought in from CL qualification and ask why virtually nothing has been reinvested in the squad this window to help progress next year? This feeling will only double if Moussa goes with no replacement. It's very short-term thinking from the Board this window. The Moussa money should be taken if it's over £30m, definitely. But it's the lack of long-term thinking that is a concern. Surely every effort should have been made to keep BR happy this window? |
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| murphio | 31 Jan 2017, 12:28 PM Post #5024 |
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No doubt they did. That isn't my point - my point is that Liverpool were better off keeping Suarez and to hell with the money. Though in that case they probably didn't have a choice but to sell. If we do have a choice - ie the player is happy where he is - then it's maybe not as black and white as just cashing in, hoping to improve the team by removing one player and spending it on four or five others. |
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| Hail!Hail! | 31 Jan 2017, 12:31 PM Post #5025 |
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Selling our star youngster after only 6 months (or in other words the first open transfer window) sends a message that we wont be bullied? Aye, nae bother. Edited by Hail!Hail!, 31 Jan 2017, 12:35 PM.
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| Flawless | 31 Jan 2017, 12:31 PM Post #5026 |
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I'd be comfortable to give Rodgers 20/30 million to build a team much more than Strachan, Lennon or RD . We have to trust him, he deserves the trust. Otherwise , what's the point? We've hit the high point of the structure we're trying to run. Buy low sell high. It's like a triple jackpot on the puggy. |
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| 44bhoy | 31 Jan 2017, 12:31 PM Post #5027 |
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Agreed. In terms of a striker replacement of equal standard, it'll be difficult. But if you look around the rest of our team and think what three or four quality players could do... MON got Sutton, Valgaren, Lennon, Thompson in in that first season. If BR can do similar...
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| dazabhoy67 | 31 Jan 2017, 12:32 PM Post #5028 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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Sub heading should be edited - 20m is so last month |
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| nakasboots | 31 Jan 2017, 12:34 PM Post #5029 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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No danger is he hopping down to London for a wee trip to see a knee specialist. If his knee was in such a condition a London based specialist was the next step, then Rodgers (and or Celtic) wouldn't be advertising the fact that our prized asset has a gammy knee. I'm thinking Chelsea have met our price.
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| Butters | 31 Jan 2017, 12:35 PM Post #5030 |
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Club Captain
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By not selling him to Chelsea we'd be denying Dembele a huge wage rise, he'd be expecting a wage bump if he stays even if he did only sign 6 months ago. I fully expect him to still be a Celtic player tomorrow. |
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| Kingslim | 31 Jan 2017, 12:36 PM Post #5031 |
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69 and counting
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If we sell Dembele there's no way all that money will be re-invested. BR will be lucky to see £6m of that |
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| murphio | 31 Jan 2017, 12:40 PM Post #5032 |
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Remember too - it's not just fees, it's wages. Say we give Rodgers 30m. Say he spends it on five players - what do five £6m players do to the wagebill? These guys are going to be looking at serious coin. |
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| hail_hail | 31 Jan 2017, 12:43 PM Post #5033 |
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I think it's a fair point but a few things worth considering. For Suarez and Bale (can't remember Ferdinand) it was all done in the same window. There was an element of panic that the money had to be spent instantly. We won't be signing anyone until the summer so we can be patient and really scout who we want without making a snap costly decision. Also with that is the expectations from the fans that the money is spent. Great you've got 80m spend that plus the other 50m that was put aside for the window. We won't have that expectation that every penny goes back on a transfer simply because we know it doesn't. |
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| Flawless | 31 Jan 2017, 12:43 PM Post #5034 |
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And we have the background finance in place to deal with that. Liek we did when signing Dembele, Sinclair and Toure this summer off a straight bat. I'd much rather have 5/6 quality players costing 30 million - look at Sinclair - than Moussa Dembele. I'm sure most of us would. Edited by Flawless, 31 Jan 2017, 12:45 PM.
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| Flawless | 31 Jan 2017, 12:44 PM Post #5035 |
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That's guesswork. And based on nothing considering how Celtic now appear to work. |
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| wigwam | 31 Jan 2017, 12:46 PM Post #5036 |
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Older than dirt
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Then buy 3 and use the rest on the wages? We sold McGeady to finance team rebuilding and it worked out well. Just because there are bad examples (Baleetc) doesn't mean it can't work. Spunking the lot quickly seems to have been the issue with your examples maybe. Couldn't knock back 35m either. Could get another Moussa plus another couple similar level with that money and pay their wages. |
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| BlauGranaBhoy | 31 Jan 2017, 12:46 PM Post #5037 |
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Does anyone really believe Moussa is in London to see a knee specialist? Don't think so!!!!!! |
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| Mjallby'sMane | 31 Jan 2017, 12:49 PM Post #5038 |
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I see where you are coming from but I'm not sure the manager has had any issues with the board to date. In this window we've signed one midfielder, we've all said midfield was the biggest area requiring improvement. It would be nice to get some quality additions bedded in now ahead of CL qualifiers but the January transfer window is notoriously difficult to get the quality of player you want and get value for money for said signing. I actually think we need to sell a few of our midfielders, strikers, defenders to make room in the squad. IMO the board have backed this manager more than any other in the last 5 years. yes BR said he was disappointed not to have brought more in, in this window but he sounded confident we'll get the business done in the summer. Quotes from BBC said Rodgers.
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| murphio | 31 Jan 2017, 12:52 PM Post #5039 |
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Do we though? We are not going to leverage the club's outgoings based on Champions League revenue. We already need some kind of European revenue just to break even - without it we run at a loss. If we sign five players earning 40k per week each (and that is not excessive money by any means), that is an extra 10m per annum lumped onto the wagebill - or 30m over three years. One or two season without Champions League could see us staring into a massive black hole. Is the club going to leverage that kind of risk? I think it is far more likely (maybe even desirable) that we give Rodgers around 10m on three or four players of the kind he has signed already and use the rest for debt reduction and investment in infrastructure. |
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| LambertandButler | 31 Jan 2017, 12:54 PM Post #5040 |
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I know. On the last day of a transfer window where he's been linked with heavily with a London club? Timing is effing nuts if it is just a medical thing. Personally, I think we should sell him if they offer £35 million plus. We'd be mad not to. |
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