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Moussa Dembele
Topic Started: 28 Jun 2016, 11:59 AM (860,539 Views)
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It is a hypothetical question, I know.

I'm just interested in what other supporters views are if he did want to go. Should we hold him to contract or play the game?

The question is based on the offer being £30m or more.

if you were BR what would you do in those circumstances?
Of course you'd be tempted to sign him but also you have the benefit of his progression over 6 months and the possible CL again next season. We have a good argument for him to stay another year and I'd hope that we would be doing everything in our power to convince him of that. If he's desperate to go so be it.
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Can't disagree with any of that.
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If Chelsea offer us 40 million take it. We'd be mad to turn it down.
We'd be mad to accept it. If he's worth 40 now, he'll be worth even more after another CL campaign and a call up for France. I expect him to be here for another 18 months.
how much for the top scorer in the 2018 world cup? :naught:
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I'm in the "let Moussa decide" camp. If he feels the offer is too good to turn down, so should we. And, of course, vice versa. What this has shown, as Victor and Virgil showed earlier, is that Celtic is a fantastic club for any young talent to showcase himself to Europe's richest clubs. Please God we use this opportunity and the wealth it brings to become one of them ourselves, although that's never going to happen this side of reconstruction. :(
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If Chelsea offer us 40 million take it. We'd be mad to turn it down.
We'd be mad to accept it. If he's worth 40 now, he'll be worth even more after another CL campaign and a call up for France. I expect him to be here for another 18 months.
how much for the top scorer in the 2018 world cup? :naught:
Shane Long?

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I would take £40m for Dembele & Gordon together.
Sign the lad from Belgium and a decent keeper (Bain from Dundee), and try and sign Roberts permanently.
That would be a pretty decent transfer window, much as I would like to see Dembele develop in our team, but you can't knock a bid like that back (if reports are true).
Edited by Owenybhoy, 31 Jan 2017, 09:10 AM.
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I would take £40m for Dembele & Gordon together.
Sign the lad from Belgium and a decent keeper (Bain from Dundee), and try and sign Roberts permanently.
That would be a pretty decent transfer window, much as I would like to see Dembele develop in our team, but you can't knock a bid like that back (if reports are true).
Bain isn't decent. Dembele will go eventually but not in this window or the next for in excess of 25m....I fully expect BR to get a massive whack of that to reinvest.
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We shouldn't be selling any of our best players half way through the season, especially when they've still got three and half years left on their contract. Admittedly that's one shampooload of money we're talking about so if the offer comes in we do need to consider it, but we haven't really got time to spend it now. Maybe if such a bid had come in a week ago things would be different, and more so if Costa had gone to China and so opened up the possibility of Dembele becoming their first choice striker immediately.

I don't get the impression that Dembele wants to leave at the moment though, he's got his head screwed on and knows that we're good for him and his career. Also, while Chelsea have basically made themselves into a big name over the last decade or so, I think he's someone who appreciates the traditional big names in football. That might even have played a part in him coming to us. I just can't see him playing for a Chelsea or a Man City for some reason.
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31 Jan 2017, 09:10 AM
I would take £40m for Dembele & Gordon together.
Sign the lad from Belgium and a decent keeper (Bain from Dundee), and try and sign Roberts permanently.
That would be a pretty decent transfer window, much as I would like to see Dembele develop in our team, but you can't knock a bid like that back (if reports are true).
What you've described would be us ending the transfer window with a weaker goalie and strike force than we had at the start. As Spurs and Liverpool have shown in recent years, it's remarkably easy to squander an enormous windfall on a bunch of mediocre players. Dembele represents our best chance of qualifying for next season's CL group stage (and helping us be competitive once there) so all efforts should be made to keep him here for another 18 months.
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I would take £40m for Dembele & Gordon together.
Sign the lad from Belgium and a decent keeper (Bain from Dundee), and try and sign Roberts permanently.
That would be a pretty decent transfer window, much as I would like to see Dembele develop in our team, but you can't knock a bid like that back (if reports are true).
Bain isn't decent. Dembele will go eventually but not in this window or the next for in excess of 25m....I fully expect BR to get a massive whack of that to reinvest.
He has been the better keeper I have seen play against us in the league, and is still young.
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31 Jan 2017, 09:10 AM
I would take £40m for Dembele & Gordon together.
Sign the lad from Belgium and a decent keeper (Bain from Dundee), and try and sign Roberts permanently.
That would be a pretty decent transfer window, much as I would like to see Dembele develop in our team, but you can't knock a bid like that back (if reports are true).
Bain isn't decent. Dembele will go eventually but not in this window or the next for in excess of 25m....I fully expect BR to get a massive whack of that to reinvest.
He has been the better keeper I have seen play against us in the league, and is still young.
I'd rather him than DDV but certainly not first choice..today is going to be a long day, thank Feck I'm not a mod :lol:
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31 Jan 2017, 09:10 AM
I would take £40m for Dembele & Gordon together.
Sign the lad from Belgium and a decent keeper (Bain from Dundee), and try and sign Roberts permanently.
That would be a pretty decent transfer window, much as I would like to see Dembele develop in our team, but you can't knock a bid like that back (if reports are true).
Bain isn't decent. Dembele will go eventually but not in this window or the next for in excess of 25m....I fully expect BR to get a massive whack of that to reinvest.
He has been the better keeper I have seen play against us in the league, and is still young.
There's a world outside your window, and it's where the best players play.
Bain is nowhere near good enough, and isn't especially young.
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I would take £40m for Dembele & Gordon together.
Sign the lad from Belgium and a decent keeper (Bain from Dundee), and try and sign Roberts permanently.
That would be a pretty decent transfer window, much as I would like to see Dembele develop in our team, but you can't knock a bid like that back (if reports are true).
What you've described would be us ending the transfer window with a weaker goalie and strike force than we had at the start. As Spurs and Liverpool have shown in recent years, it's remarkably easy to squander an enormous windfall on a bunch of mediocre players. Dembele represents our best chance of qualifying for next season's CL group stage (and helping us be competitive once there) so all efforts should be made to keep him here for another 18 months.
Funnily enough selling your best striker and keeper is always going to make your team weaker.
But what can you do ?
No guarantees that anyone you buy is gonna come in and be instantly awesome.
But in our league I just don't think we could (or would) knock that kind of offer back for a guy we have had for 6 months, and a keeper that has never really convinced me that he is 'top notch'.
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He has been the better keeper I have seen play against us in the league, and is still young.
I'd rather him than DDV but certainly not first choice..today is going to be a long day, thank Feck I'm not a mod :lol:
Thank god we have BR in charge and not me then. :thumbsup:
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31 Jan 2017, 09:10 AM
I would take £40m for Dembele & Gordon together.
Sign the lad from Belgium and a decent keeper (Bain from Dundee), and try and sign Roberts permanently.
That would be a pretty decent transfer window, much as I would like to see Dembele develop in our team, but you can't knock a bid like that back (if reports are true).
Bain isn't decent. Dembele will go eventually but not in this window or the next for in excess of 25m....I fully expect BR to get a massive whack of that to reinvest.
He has been the better keeper I have seen play against us in the league, and is still young.
At the minute buying a good affordable keeper is a sight easier tham buying a good young striker. The Jordan Rhodes money for example. If ut comes its going to be a tricky one for Brendan bit all our focus now should be on CL qualifiers
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31 Jan 2017, 09:10 AM
I would take £40m for Dembele & Gordon together.
Sign the lad from Belgium and a decent keeper (Bain from Dundee), and try and sign Roberts permanently.
That would be a pretty decent transfer window, much as I would like to see Dembele develop in our team, but you can't knock a bid like that back (if reports are true).
What you've described would be us ending the transfer window with a weaker goalie and strike force than we had at the start. As Spurs and Liverpool have shown in recent years, it's remarkably easy to squander an enormous windfall on a bunch of mediocre players. Dembele represents our best chance of qualifying for next season's CL group stage (and helping us be competitive once there) so all efforts should be made to keep him here for another 18 months.
Funnily enough selling your best striker and keeper is always going to make your team weaker.
But what can you do ?
No guarantees that anyone you buy is gonna come in and be instantly awesome.
But in our league I just don't think we could (or would) knock that kind of offer back for a guy we have had for 6 months, and a keeper that has never really convinced me that he is 'top notch'.
There's one thing we could do - not sell them. The big money will still be on the table for Dembele at any point over the next two years. It's not like he's gone on strike to force through a move. In fact, all evidence suggests he's in no rush to leave Celtic. Why the rush to cash in? As for Gordon, I'd be more open to a sale there but only if we can sign someone better. Bain is a good SPFL goalie but hardly an upgrade.
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He has been the better keeper I have seen play against us in the league, and is still young.
There's a world outside your window, and it's where the best players play.
Bain is nowhere near good enough, and isn't especially young.
25 isn't young ? :o

Fair enough, I don't watch any other football other than our games.
And he has been one of the better keepers we have played, that I remember.
Not saying he is a top keeper by any means, but one that could be moulded to suit BR style, as Gordon has done.
I am sure there are plenty of decent keepers out there though.
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There's a world outside your window, and it's where the best players play.
Bain is nowhere near good enough, and isn't especially young.
25 isn't young ? :o

Fair enough, I don't watch any other football other than our games.
And he has been one of the better keepers we have played, that I remember.
Not saying he is a top keeper by any means, but one that could be moulded to suit BR style, as Gordon has done.
I am sure there are plenty of decent keepers out there though.
Bain is only 6ft tall. Too small. He's not that great any way.
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25 isn't young ? :o

Fair enough, I don't watch any other football other than our games.
And he has been one of the better keepers we have played, that I remember.
Not saying he is a top keeper by any means, but one that could be moulded to suit BR style, as Gordon has done.
I am sure there are plenty of decent keepers out there though.
Bain is only 6ft tall. Too small. He's not that great any way.
I thought that was a song you were composing there. :thumbsup:
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I'd love to keep him and tell Chelsea to do one, but 40m your all having a laugh if you think we are going to reject that type of money. Our turnover on a non champions league year(which we budget for) is around the 62m-65m mark? To make more than half of that off 1 player, easy decision for the board and I'm sure the manager understands, that we are a club that needs to make money in order to keep ahead of the rest.

What is important is that we reinvest that money back into the first team squad. Not all of it but a large chunk of it say 20m-25m at least. That could really set us up for years to come.
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We shouldn't be selling any of our best players half way through the season, especially when they've still got three and half years left on their contract. Admittedly that's one shampooload of money we're talking about so if the offer comes in we do need to consider it, but we haven't really got time to spend it now. Maybe if such a bid had come in a week ago things would be different, and more so if Costa had gone to China and so opened up the possibility of Dembele becoming their first choice striker immediately.

I don't get the impression that Dembele wants to leave at the moment though, he's got his head screwed on and knows that we're good for him and his career. Also, while Chelsea have basically made themselves into a big name over the last decade or so, I think he's someone who appreciates the traditional big names in football. That might even have played a part in him coming to us. I just can't see him playing for a Chelsea or a Man City for some reason.
I'm not sure either that Dembele would be in a rush to leave this window, but you're kidding yourself on if you don't think he'd sign for Chelsea or Man City.

Like any footballer, if someone offered him mental cash he'd be there in a heartbeat.
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