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Moussa Dembele
Topic Started: 28 Jun 2016, 11:59 AM (860,557 Views)
AG67
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Bilic might well be back on the phone to Pistol Pete tonight - if he still has a job - to ask if he can have Erik and Simunovic as well
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6 Jan 2017, 11:11 PM
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Looks like the insider is going to be removed
Time for Karen Brady being harsh but fair.
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Nah, I wouldn't sell for 20M. He's one of the few genuinely exciting signings we've made in recent years. And the way he can make it happen specifically in big games, one way or another. His first trip to Ibrox could have been an issue, but he actually got better as the game went out, pulling out his Dembellend and slapped the huns about with it. I'd only sell if we get a proper legit cartoon money offer.
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I see no reason to sell. Keep him at the club for another year at least, if just keeps doing what he's doing we'll get a year more of football from him and the same amount or more. If he impresses in the CL, getting a couple of goals against some big clubs, we can add 10-15 million to his asking price.
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6 Jan 2017, 11:47 PM
Nah, I wouldn't sell for 20M. He's one of the few genuinely exciting signings we've made in recent years. And the way he can make it happen specifically in big games, one way or another. His first trip to Ibrox could have been an issue, but he actually got better as the game went out, pulling out his Dembellend and slapped the huns about with it. I'd only sell if we get a proper legit cartoon money offer.
Dembellend :lol:
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AG67
6 Jan 2017, 11:27 PM
Bilic might well be back on the phone to Pistol Pete tonight - if he still has a job - to ask if he can have Erik and Simunovic as well
it wont be Bilic on the phone , it will be the owners asking if they can speak to Brendan as well.
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7 Jan 2017, 01:55 AM
AG67
6 Jan 2017, 11:27 PM
Bilic might well be back on the phone to Pistol Pete tonight - if he still has a job - to ask if he can have Erik and Simunovic as well
it wont be Bilic on the phone , it will be the owners asking if they can speak to Brendan as well.
I've envisioned some Southpark style cartoon of some minted Sheik phoning Lawwell, who is Scrooge McDucking* himself as he takes the call. Fast forward to him ordering more gold for the outdoor pool by the end if the call. :twitch:
*Not rhyming slang, just doing that Scrooge McDuck thing. :lol:
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HB has tweets from Spiers who has interviewed Peter Lawwell, the club will get the full transfer fee for Moussassin.
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I doubt he's worth more than 20 million to an epl side but he's worth more than 20 million to us because he will be key to securing Champions League football worth 30+million, also even if we used that 20 million to buy someone else we would potentially need to pay wages 3 or 4 times what Moussa is on which would add 3-5 million to the annual wage bill.
Edited by CPBX, 7 Jan 2017, 02:21 AM.
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7 Jan 2017, 02:20 AM
I doubt he's worth more than 20 million to an epl side but he's worth more than 20 million to us because he will be key to securing Champions League football worth 30+million, also even if we used that 20 million to buy someone else we would potentially need to pay wages 3 or 4 times what Moussa is on which would add 3-5 million to the annual wage bill.
if we got 30m from this years Ch League , where is it? Runour has it Brendan has 6m to spend , possibly more if big Virgil moves. Whats happened to the rest?
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7 Jan 2017, 03:29 AM
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7 Jan 2017, 02:20 AM
I doubt he's worth more than 20 million to an epl side but he's worth more than 20 million to us because he will be key to securing Champions League football worth 30+million, also even if we used that 20 million to buy someone else we would potentially need to pay wages 3 or 4 times what Moussa is on which would add 3-5 million to the annual wage bill.
if we got 30m from this years Ch League , where is it? Runour has it Brendan has 6m to spend , possibly more if big Virgil moves. Whats happened to the rest?
You're treating rumour as fact.
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7 Jan 2017, 02:20 AM
I doubt he's worth more than 20 million to an epl side but he's worth more than 20 million to us because he will be key to securing Champions League football worth 30+million, also even if we used that 20 million to buy someone else we would potentially need to pay wages 3 or 4 times what Moussa is on which would add 3-5 million to the annual wage bill.
If West Ham were relegated, how much do you think that'd cost them?

I accept that Dembélé is probably worth min £30m to us (although it's probably unfair to heap all that CL pressure on one player). By same token, however, surely he is worth a lot, lot more to any EPL club in the bottom half if he helps keep them up? Similarly, he's surely worth a lot, lot more to the middle-rankers (Everton, Southampton, etc) because if he continues his development trajectory, he's the difference between mid-table obscurity and CL/top6? Likewise, for any club in the EFL Championship aiming to make and stay in the EPL. But, I'm not convinced he'd want to move to anyone in that list.

Where he is of less value is the financial top 3 (Chelski, Utd and City) because they don't need him right now and they'll happily spunk a lot more on him after he's proven himself elsewhere in the EPL. The interesting ones (to me) therefore are Spurs, Liverpool and Arsenal and, if they came calling, I'd think we'd struggle to hold onto him and get more than £20m because they'd still see him as an unfinished article or "project" (and in Arsenal's case, Wenger is a tight git).

If he counted as UK home-grown or developed by UEFA, he'd be worth more to the top 6 (especially City who struggle there).

Our best bet is hold onto him for at least another year and hope he has similar impact at European/international level. Hopefully we would have then secured CL for 17-18, got 17-18 SPL in bag and git a bidding war which could net us a further £35-50m.

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7 Jan 2017, 02:18 AM
HB has tweets from Spiers who has interviewed Peter Lawwell, the club will get the full transfer fee for Moussassin.
If true that is brilliant news :clap:
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7 Jan 2017, 03:29 AM
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7 Jan 2017, 02:20 AM
I doubt he's worth more than 20 million to an epl side but he's worth more than 20 million to us because he will be key to securing Champions League football worth 30+million, also even if we used that 20 million to buy someone else we would potentially need to pay wages 3 or 4 times what Moussa is on which would add 3-5 million to the annual wage bill.
if we got 30m from this years Ch League , where is it? Runour has it Brendan has 6m to spend , possibly more if big Virgil moves. Whats happened to the rest?
Obviously the £30m figure is pre tax and deductions. You'll then have bonuses to come out of that, operating costs to meet etc. We've seen before we either need to sell someone or have CL money in to keep financially strong so I'd imagine X of the £30m( pre deductions) will go to running costs
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7 Jan 2017, 03:29 AM
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7 Jan 2017, 02:20 AM
I doubt he's worth more than 20 million to an epl side but he's worth more than 20 million to us because he will be key to securing Champions League football worth 30+million, also even if we used that 20 million to buy someone else we would potentially need to pay wages 3 or 4 times what Moussa is on which would add 3-5 million to the annual wage bill.
if we got 30m from this years Ch League , where is it? Runour has it Brendan has 6m to spend , possibly more if big Virgil moves. Whats happened to the rest?
We're stockpiling it until Rangers come back from the dead.

Or, UEFA will give us it when the competition is finished.
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ian1888
7 Jan 2017, 03:29 AM
CPBX
7 Jan 2017, 02:20 AM
I doubt he's worth more than 20 million to an epl side but he's worth more than 20 million to us because he will be key to securing Champions League football worth 30+million, also even if we used that 20 million to buy someone else we would potentially need to pay wages 3 or 4 times what Moussa is on which would add 3-5 million to the annual wage bill.
if we got 30m from this years Ch League , where is it? Runour has it Brendan has 6m to spend , possibly more if big Virgil moves. Whats happened to the rest?
It's gonna be placed in a glass cabinet and you'll be charged £2 to see it.
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The Insider did us a favour, actually. He put a floor on the bidding in everyone's mind. It has ended the SMSM's puerile "he'll be off at the first sight of £5m" pish. Listening to BFDJ's strangled efforts on the podcast to warn about the dangers of long-term injury -- "lookit Calum Patterson" -- was enjoyable. I should listen to that scheidt more often. :lol:
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Not convinced he'll end up England. Spain or Italy is just as likey imo.
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7 Jan 2017, 10:26 AM
Not convinced he'll end up England. Spain or Italy is just as likey imo.
England is a stick on to where he'll end up.
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7 Jan 2017, 11:30 AM
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7 Jan 2017, 10:26 AM
Not convinced he'll end up England. Spain or Italy is just as likey imo.
England is a stick on to where he'll end up.
Hope so. I would prefer China though.
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