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Moussa Dembele
Topic Started: 28 Jun 2016, 11:59 AM (860,564 Views)
ootmaheid
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kevtic
6 Jan 2017, 12:10 AM
If we were genuinely offered 30 mill for a player we bought for 400k around 6 months ago I'd be surprised if we didn't accept it. Injuries, loss of form, failure to reach potential all unknowns in the football world. Dembele has loads of talent and potential but many young players have been in this situation and it's all gone tits up. I think Dembele is the real deal but I'm not sure our board would risk losing out on that kind of profit even though the pot of gold could be much bigger further down the line.
I think you're right. Wouldn't be surprised to see him leave soon, unfortunately.
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6 Jan 2017, 12:12 AM
Even if he goes in the summer I'll be distraught, guy is a star.

What I'd give for a player of his potential to stay 3-4 years
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Wont be too surprised if he is away in January. He seemed to be soaking up the atmosphere, applauding the fans for a wee bit too long at Ibrox. Last off the pitch, looked a bit sullen as he trodded off.
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TheMaestro
6 Jan 2017, 12:33 AM
Wont be too surprised if he is away in January. He seemed to be soaking up the atmosphere, applauding the fans for a wee bit too long at Ibrox. Last off the pitch, looked a bit sullen as he trodded off.
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TheMaestro
6 Jan 2017, 12:33 AM
Wont be too surprised if he is away in January. He seemed to be soaking up the atmosphere, applauding the fans for a wee bit too long at Ibrox. Last off the pitch, looked a bit sullen as he trodded off.
Better fishing attempt than Bagheera at least :clap:
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6 Jan 2017, 12:12 AM
I am fairly sure he can't move in January due to FIFA's 'max 2 clubs in 12 months' rule.
Can only appear for two clubs in one season.

Don't accept there is any chance whatsoever he will leave in this window.

He appears to be a sensible, well-advised young man with a clear notion of his career trajectory.

He is here to improve, and then to move on to the very top. Playing for the effing hammers, in a soulless athletic stadium, is not part of any sensible plan. Nor, indeed, would be going anywhere at this stage.

It appears he wants to do all he can to be the best; he has come on leaps and bounds here, under Rodgers: everything indicates he will be here for another 18 months.

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TheMaestro
6 Jan 2017, 12:33 AM
Wont be too surprised if he is away in January. He seemed to be soaking up the atmosphere, applauding the fans for a wee bit too long at Ibrox. Last off the pitch, looked a bit sullen as he trodded off.
Obviously just annoyed because Celtic won't beat the mighty Bears to second, Timmy!



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drks
6 Jan 2017, 12:12 AM
I am fairly sure he can't move in January due to FIFA's 'max 2 clubs in 12 months' rule.
It's two clubs in one season....he has only played for us this season :ponder:
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You know what the best bit is? This is a lose/lose for the hun. Keep him and he will continue to put them over his knee and skelp their arse. Sell him and our financial dominance becomes utterly beyond their reach for the forseeable future. Read it and weep huns, read it and weep.
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kevtic
6 Jan 2017, 12:10 AM
If we were genuinely offered 30 mill for a player we bought for 400k around 6 months ago I'd be surprised if we didn't accept it. Injuries, loss of form, failure to reach potential all unknowns in the football world. Dembele has loads of talent and potential but many young players have been in this situation and it's all gone tits up. I think Dembele is the real deal but I'm not sure our board would risk losing out on that kind of profit even though the pot of gold could be much bigger further down the line.
Short of a career ending injury between now and May , his value is not going to drop between now and then

If that sort of cash is offered in the summer then I agree our board will take it :ph43r:

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jim62
6 Jan 2017, 01:13 AM
kevtic
6 Jan 2017, 12:10 AM
If we were genuinely offered 30 mill for a player we bought for 400k around 6 months ago I'd be surprised if we didn't accept it. Injuries, loss of form, failure to reach potential all unknowns in the football world. Dembele has loads of talent and potential but many young players have been in this situation and it's all gone tits up. I think Dembele is the real deal but I'm not sure our board would risk losing out on that kind of profit even though the pot of gold could be much bigger further down the line.
Short of a career ending injury between now and May , his value is not going to drop between now and then

If that sort of cash is offered in the summer then I agree our board will take it :ph43r:

And rightly so. Used wisely we can invest that money to help the club maintain its stranglehold on Scottish football and make Champions League football a regular occurence. I'd argue Celtic simply can't afford to have a 30m assets on its books.
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murphio
6 Jan 2017, 01:20 AM
jim62
6 Jan 2017, 01:13 AM
kevtic
6 Jan 2017, 12:10 AM
If we were genuinely offered 30 mill for a player we bought for 400k around 6 months ago I'd be surprised if we didn't accept it. Injuries, loss of form, failure to reach potential all unknowns in the football world. Dembele has loads of talent and potential but many young players have been in this situation and it's all gone tits up. I think Dembele is the real deal but I'm not sure our board would risk losing out on that kind of profit even though the pot of gold could be much bigger further down the line.
Short of a career ending injury between now and May , his value is not going to drop between now and then

If that sort of cash is offered in the summer then I agree our board will take it :ph43r:

And rightly so. Used wisely we can invest that money to help the club maintain its stranglehold on Scottish football and make Champions League football a regular occurence. I'd argue Celtic simply can't afford to have a 30m assets on its books.
We've did well investing money from players sales in the past .......
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murphio
6 Jan 2017, 01:20 AM
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6 Jan 2017, 01:13 AM
kevtic
6 Jan 2017, 12:10 AM
If we were genuinely offered 30 mill for a player we bought for 400k around 6 months ago I'd be surprised if we didn't accept it. Injuries, loss of form, failure to reach potential all unknowns in the football world. Dembele has loads of talent and potential but many young players have been in this situation and it's all gone tits up. I think Dembele is the real deal but I'm not sure our board would risk losing out on that kind of profit even though the pot of gold could be much bigger further down the line.
Short of a career ending injury between now and May , his value is not going to drop between now and then

If that sort of cash is offered in the summer then I agree our board will take it :ph43r:

And rightly so. Used wisely we can invest that money to help the club maintain its stranglehold on Scottish football and make Champions League football a regular occurence. I'd argue Celtic simply can't afford to have a 30m assets on its books.
think your right there murphio
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murphio
6 Jan 2017, 01:20 AM
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6 Jan 2017, 01:13 AM
kevtic
6 Jan 2017, 12:10 AM
If we were genuinely offered 30 mill for a player we bought for 400k around 6 months ago I'd be surprised if we didn't accept it. Injuries, loss of form, failure to reach potential all unknowns in the football world. Dembele has loads of talent and potential but many young players have been in this situation and it's all gone tits up. I think Dembele is the real deal but I'm not sure our board would risk losing out on that kind of profit even though the pot of gold could be much bigger further down the line.
Short of a career ending injury between now and May , his value is not going to drop between now and then

If that sort of cash is offered in the summer then I agree our board will take it :ph43r:

And rightly so. Used wisely we can invest that money to help the club maintain its stranglehold on Scottish football and make Champions League football a regular occurence. I'd argue Celtic simply can't afford to have a 30m assets on its books.
Except for the obvious reason. He could be the difference in qualifying for the champions league in the summer, £30m in the coffers, then sell him next January. Silly not to.
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Should be simple maths.
Dembele should allow us the opportunity to gain a £30m CL ticket.

Therefore, he's not worth a penny less, and doesn't go until he's helped us achieve the CL group stages.
If he does, then he can go with a healthy chunk of his sale going his way, as he could between CL qualification and his sale, net us a cool £60m.

Apologies if I'm not living in the real world of soccernomics but that would be my argument to him and any potential club.
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6 Jan 2017, 01:30 AM
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6 Jan 2017, 01:13 AM

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And rightly so. Used wisely we can invest that money to help the club maintain its stranglehold on Scottish football and make Champions League football a regular occurence. I'd argue Celtic simply can't afford to have a 30m assets on its books.
Except for the obvious reason. He could be the difference in qualifying for the champions league in the summer, £30m in the coffers, then sell him next January. Silly not to.
To be fair... he wasn't a regular in the team when we qualifed for the Champions League. Though I take your point - there is a balancing act for sure.
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I think that Pedro is (braced) too canny a businessman to consider selling Moussa in the first round of offers that appear for him. If £20m is being banded about under a week into the first transfer window that he's been at the club in the middle of a season where he could go on to score 35/40 goals then rules of negotiation and market value guarantee that there are better offers to be had. There is also the small matter that his participation in the qualifiers next year makes it more likely that we'll qualify for the CL next season which will generate us more money than the figures being quoted. So regardless of whether he stays or not there is a serious chance of us making that amount of money anyway; we can earn both income streams if we wait and sell him in a year or 18 months though.

From Moussa's point of view I have no reason to believe that his head will be turned by a West Ham or equivalent unless then pull out a daft 80k++ contract for him and even then he'll still be viewing that as being a stepping stone to playing at one for the biggies. The issue for him there though is that it's much more difficult to leave a West Ham than it is Celtic if a big club comes calling because they genuinely don't need the money. They'll want him to sign a 4/5 year contract and I suspect he sees himself at a Bayern/Real/Chelsea in 2/3 years so he could potentially be stuck and unable to move because he took the jump slightly earlier than he should have done. And I think his agent is well aware of this game too.

A small point but one worth considering with the manager that we have now is that BR clearly signed Moussa to play a supporting role to Leigh this season before being taken aback by how well he did when he came in so his intention seems to have always been that Moussa would be here for 2 years. Clearly if a silly money bid comes in then every similar plan will be open for change but, for the reasons above (and because BR seems to have more control over the PLC), I don't think this type of transfer offer will go through.






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Just saw that West Ham have 'more than doubled' their bid for Jermaine Defoe from £6m to £13m. :lmao:

They aren't very good at this are they?

Expect a £95M for Moussa come lunchtime tomorrow. :thumbsup:
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We don't need to sell him, and at the moment he is happy so we shouldn't even be thinking about it.

If he can get us to the CL each of his 4 seasons I'd happily watch him leave for free at the end of the contract, he's an utter gift and his kinda quality don't come around all the time
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