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Moussa Dembele
Topic Started: 28 Jun 2016, 11:59 AM (860,566 Views)
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The way I see it, if bidding is starting at £20M we could get more than that in the future if we can hold onto him.

Other thing to take into account is that he's potentially worth £30M to us by staying and helping us qualify for the CL next season, even if we don't we could still get the fee, or alternatively take it if we do and have a replacement.

Don't know if it's been posted already, similar video of the one on the last few pages from the Rangers game but of the first one. Actually think you can even see the improvement in his play between both over the course of five months.

Dembele 5-1 game
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I might just be deluded an eternal optimist, but I could see us keeping him for another 18 months.

There is a reason he came to Celtic, when he could have chosen an Epl team and its not just down to us not having to pay a full fee for him.
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He'll be here for another 18 months and will go for 40m IMO.

^ Agree with the above post too. :thumbsup:
Edited by Jinkys 7, 5 Jan 2017, 10:49 PM.
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5 Jan 2017, 10:07 PM
It's a nice problem to have. Dembele has a problem too though. I don't think the West Hams of the footballing world will tempt him to leave. Even for daft wages. But if Bayern, Barcelona, or Real etc come calling, then he'll have a decision to make. Top 5/6 in the EPL even. That's where he wants to be. It's why he came to us in the first place, because we could get him there.
Chance fir Dembele to vo there and keep them up, be hero, recognised by other Engkish and also showing them that he can score in highest paid league in Europe.

May seem like a challenge for Dembele, one that he would like to take.
That and at least 50k a week.
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Its hilarious jumping between here and FF - they are going into meltdown with more pages on Moussa than any other transfer thread for der peeps! Mind you, Ali Crawford is generating some heat as well!
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5 Jan 2017, 10:41 PM
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5 Jan 2017, 10:06 PM
Barring Dembele picking up a career-changing injury, we've nothing to lose by keeping hold of him for another 18 months. His value isn't going to go down (and could very well go up if he stars in the CL again next season). The £25 million or whatever teams are offering is still going to be on the table at the end of next season. Hopefully by that time he'll have helped earn us another huge slice of CL money and delivered several more domestic trophies. As well as being a huge kick in the teeth to the fans, it would send out a pretty poor signal about where we are as a club if we decided to cash in on our best player after only half a season. For those reasons, i'm relatively confident that he'll still be a Celtic player beyond this transfer window unless an absolutely ridiculous offer was to come in from somewhere like China.
Agree fully.
My heart agrees with you but my head doesn't.
£20m gives the club a very large pool of money to invest back into the team. Don't get me wrong, I think if we could hold onto him for another crack at the CL then, on top of additional strengthening this window and next, we would be a formidable force.
But we can be a formidable force without Dembele, and giving BR the entire £20m for squad investment could yield a far stronger team than we might have were Dembele retained.
At the end of the day, if an offer is in, I think BR should have the last word on whether it is accepted.
I know what you're saying but, as someone already pointed out with the way Liverpool squandered the Suarez money, selling one great player for a fortune and using the cash to bring in several good players rarely works. Spurs did a similar thing with the Gareth Bale money. Yes we could sign some very useful players with the Dembele fee but we're not going to find a striker as good as him who can terrorise defences the way he terrorised Man City this season. I'd be tempted if our starting XI was weak overall and the £20 million was needed to buy five players who could instantly improve the team. But I don't feel that's the case at all. In fact, given what a settled team we have at the moment, I think it would be an unnecessary disaster to make wholesale changes. What's more likely is that we'd use some of the fee to sign an inferior replacement and bank the remainder of the money.
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5 Jan 2017, 10:44 PM
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Brendan was manager at Liverpool when they got the windfall from the deal that sent Suarez to Barcelona. I seem to remember that money was pretty much blown on a group of players who did not work out, which was the beginning of the end for Brendan at Anfield. How much input did he have on how the Suarez money was (mis)spent, or was he overruled by the higher-ups?
Rodgers was one of four people on the now infamous Liverpool transfer committee. Some of the signings they made that summer were baffling. Everyone remembers Balotelli but at least we know he's capable of brilliance and can see why they were tempted to gamble on him. But some of the other guys they brought in (Rickie Lambert!) were never cut out for that type of move in a million years.
He said the plan was to get Sanchez as a replacement to play with Sturridge supported by Sterling, Lallana and Coutinho.

Lambert was to be used as cover. That sounds like a decent plan.

They didn't go the extra mile to get Sanchez and ended up scrambling about to get Balotelli. Sturridge got injured and Lambert ended up being their main striker.


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Less than 20 million is the new they're going to get away with it.
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the mighty sparrow
5 Jan 2017, 10:40 PM
Brendan was manager at Liverpool when they got the windfall from the deal that sent Suarez to Barcelona. I seem to remember that money was pretty much blown on a group of players who did not work out, which was the beginning of the end for Brendan at Anfield. How much input did he have on how the Suarez money was (mis)spent, or was he overruled by the higher-ups?
Rodgers was one of four people on the now infamous Liverpool transfer committee. Some of the signings they made that summer were baffling. Everyone remembers Balotelli but at least we know he's capable of brilliance and can see why they were tempted to gamble on him. But some of the other guys they brought in (Rickie Lambert!) were never cut out for that type of move in a million years.
He said the plan was to get Sanchez as a replacement to play with Sturridge supported by Sterling, Lallana and Coutinho.

Lambert was to be used as cover. That sounds like a decent plan.

They didn't go the extra mile to get Sanchez and ended up scrambling about to get Balotelli. Sturridge got injured and Lambert ended up being their main striker.


They also spent £20 million on Markovic, £20 million on Lovren and £12 million on Moreno - proving how easy it is to absolutely waste a massive windfall like the one they got for Suarez. I'd rather keep Dembele than take the gamble that we could use any potential transfer fee to improve the overall depth of the squad.
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I don't imagine celtic will be to impressed with this if it's coming from a article on the west ham website. Quite unprofessional from them
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lepetitmerde
5 Jan 2017, 11:05 PM
I don't imagine celtic will be to impressed with this if it's coming from a article on the west ham website. Quite unprofessional from them
West Ham? Tacky? Whit? Naw!
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5 Jan 2017, 10:56 PM
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5 Jan 2017, 10:48 PM
anyone who thinks the club wont accept 20 million for him are off their head. We would accept 15 every day of week


just have to look at wanyama and van djik to see that
Van Dijk was 24. Wanyama was 22. Dembele is 20.

He's a striker, making a massive impact in his first season and he's already a known quantity in the EPL (and around Europe for that matter). We've also largely scuppered the idea that players coming from Scotland can't hack it down south thanks to the performances of our big sellers.

All factors that make him more valuable. We can and will hold out for more than £20m.
And they've signed their crazy new TV deal since Wanyama and Van Dijk headed south too. :thumbsup:
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5 Jan 2017, 10:50 PM

That and at least 50k a week.
I read elsewhere he's on c £30k/week and we've made up to £30m from the Champion's League so if we take £1m of that and convert it to wages then it takes him up to £50k/week.

Problem solved?
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Folk actually thinking we're gonna take this. :lmao:
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I said this a few days ago, I'd be surprised if Dembele's agent hadn't negotiated a cut of any future transfer fee as part of the deal with Celtic. They seem well aware of his worth.
If he has then even if Celtic were offered £20m we might end up with quite a bit less.
I cannot see us letting him go for less than £30m. Crazy money, but they're all spending crazy money.
I reckon he'll be here until this time next year.
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5 Jan 2017, 11:05 PM
I don't imagine celtic will be to impressed with this if it's coming from a article on the west ham website. Quite unprofessional from them
West Ham have made no secret of the fact they've bid for Sunderland's Jermaine Defoe so they're certainly not going to worry about upsetting a team that plays in a completely different league.
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I'm happy to see him stay for the CL qualifiers, then he can go on Sep 1 2017.
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I don't think he'll be away this month and certainly not to West Ham for 20 million. We need to start playing hardball with these effers because they will pay te money. For me bids start at 30 million taking into consideration, his age, attributes, position and the fact he has already dome it at CL level and will most likely be promoted to the full French squad, eff did he not score twice against England U21 add another 5 million then :)

Personally I would like him to stay for at least two seasons however may most likely won't happen.
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5 Jan 2017, 11:16 PM
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5 Jan 2017, 11:13 PM

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I would suggest that the player isn't interested in West Ham. Considering Spurs were after him and that PSG are also looking, West Ham's bid is futile. If they even have bid.
If West ham offer him 70k a week he will walk to London unfortunately
If Moussa was motivated by money he wouldn't have signed with us. He knows he is set for the big money anyway, why settle for West Ham now when he has potential to be at a top European force.
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In the summer Celtic will accept "£20 mill + Patrick Roberts on permanent + Moussa loaned back for a season" from Man City

BLISS
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