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Moussa Dembele
Topic Started: 28 Jun 2016, 11:59 AM (860,567 Views)
davedarave
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It's a nice problem to have. Dembele has a problem too though. I don't think the West Hams of the footballing world will tempt him to leave. Even for daft wages. But if Bayern, Barcelona, or Real etc come calling, then he'll have a decision to make. Top 5/6 in the EPL even. That's where he wants to be. It's why he came to us in the first place, because we could get him there.
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5 Jan 2017, 10:01 PM
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5 Jan 2017, 09:53 PM
Pointless selling in the summer then scrambling around for another striker before the CL.
If we hypothetically sold Dembele in early July, we'd have near 2 months to sign another striker.

With a massive amount of money on the back of the record fee we'd sell him for.

It would actually be worse if we sold him as soon as we'd qualify for the Champions League, with a few days before the end of August.
Downside is clubs would know we had a load of cash and would inflate their prices, plus two months isn't really that long - but that's supposing we are starting from scratch looking for someone, which I doubt. If we sold him now, we could either buy someone now and he'd have the rest of the season with us to bed in, or give us a lot more time to get the right person. Hoping that it's neither scenario of course, but just thinking what would be best for us.
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The reality is he was already going to go to Spurs last January. I think he's looking to go higher than West Ham. Double the offer, though, and then we'll see.
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5 Jan 2017, 10:05 PM
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5 Jan 2017, 09:58 PM
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5 Jan 2017, 09:37 PM
Anybody? :(
Works for me on the Twitter app on Android.

Basically Bilic is being coy and saying to journalists not to throw names at him as he won't answer. Wants to do his business in private. Dembélé isn't mentioned once :thumbsup:
Ta

No missing much then
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nails
5 Jan 2017, 09:58 PM
nails
5 Jan 2017, 09:37 PM
Anybody? :(
Does it work now?

https://twitter.com/ScotlandSky/status/816980914378899456
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nails
5 Jan 2017, 09:58 PM
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5 Jan 2017, 09:37 PM
Anybody? :(
Does it work now?

https://twitter.com/ScotlandSky/status/816980914378899456

Works for me.
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Well you all know my thoughts on the big man early doors (been wrong before :ponder: ) if we get offered £20/25 mill, we are going to take that.

Once again i've jumped in the last page, so don't know what's been said.

Fair play to the big man, sounds like he wants to hang around for a bit.
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If West Ham are bidding £20m already then I expect silly season to start.

Sadly I don't see him staying for another year, something tells me that the dominance we have this season may see him look for a bigger challenge. Having said that, Brendan will have him well versed as to his plans for the next season or two.

Still think it will eventually be to Man City for between £30-35m, with his best pal Roberts, and both doing perhaps one more year on loan at best.
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stibhan
5 Jan 2017, 10:09 PM
The reality is he was already going to go to Spurs last January. I think he's looking to go higher than West Ham. Double the offer, though, and then we'll see.
You're inferring he knocked back Spurs. He didnt.
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5 Jan 2017, 10:06 PM
Barring Dembele picking up a career-changing injury, we've nothing to lose by keeping hold of him for another 18 months. His value isn't going to go down (and could very well go up if he stars in the CL again next season). The £25 million or whatever teams are offering is still going to be on the table at the end of next season. Hopefully by that time he'll have helped earn us another huge slice of CL money and delivered several more domestic trophies. As well as being a huge kick in the teeth to the fans, it would send out a pretty poor signal about where we are as a club if we decided to cash in on our best player after only half a season. For those reasons, i'm relatively confident that he'll still be a Celtic player beyond this transfer window unless an absolutely ridiculous offer was to come in from somewhere like China.
Agree fully.
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If West Ham are just starting the bidding and it goes up another £5 or £10 million to the £30 million mark when do we say it's the right amount ceteris paribus
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5 Jan 2017, 08:06 PM
The idea we would take 20m is a bit laughable. He is the type of player every club in the world is looking for - the all-round striker who has all the athletic attributes and can lead the line alone. Even below average or unproven players in his mould go for 20m+. Add on the French player tax on top of that.

I'd be asking for 40m. It's a seller's market and we have football's equivalent of a fabergé egg.
This is a well written, sensible post. :thumbsup:
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Brendan was manager at Liverpool when they got the windfall from the deal that sent Suarez to Barcelona. I seem to remember that money was pretty much blown on a group of players who did not work out, which was the beginning of the end for Brendan at Anfield. How much input did he have on how the Suarez money was (mis)spent, or was he overruled by the higher-ups?
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5 Jan 2017, 10:31 PM
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5 Jan 2017, 10:09 PM
The reality is he was already going to go to Spurs last January. I think he's looking to go higher than West Ham. Double the offer, though, and then we'll see.
You're inferring he knocked back Spurs. He didnt.
Yup, Spurs wanted him to sign right away, Fulham wanted him back on loan for the rest of the season and Spurs basically told them to ram it.
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5 Jan 2017, 10:31 PM
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5 Jan 2017, 10:06 PM
Barring Dembele picking up a career-changing injury, we've nothing to lose by keeping hold of him for another 18 months. His value isn't going to go down (and could very well go up if he stars in the CL again next season). The £25 million or whatever teams are offering is still going to be on the table at the end of next season. Hopefully by that time he'll have helped earn us another huge slice of CL money and delivered several more domestic trophies. As well as being a huge kick in the teeth to the fans, it would send out a pretty poor signal about where we are as a club if we decided to cash in on our best player after only half a season. For those reasons, i'm relatively confident that he'll still be a Celtic player beyond this transfer window unless an absolutely ridiculous offer was to come in from somewhere like China.
Agree fully.
My heart agrees with you but my head doesn't.
£20m gives the club a very large pool of money to invest back into the team. Don't get me wrong, I think if we could hold onto him for another crack at the CL then, on top of additional strengthening this window and next, we would be a formidable force.
But we can be a formidable force without Dembele, and giving BR the entire £20m for squad investment could yield a far stronger team than we might have were Dembele retained.
At the end of the day, if an offer is in, I think BR should have the last word on whether it is accepted.
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5 Jan 2017, 10:40 PM
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5 Jan 2017, 10:31 PM
stibhan
5 Jan 2017, 10:09 PM
The reality is he was already going to go to Spurs last January. I think he's looking to go higher than West Ham. Double the offer, though, and then we'll see.
You're inferring he knocked back Spurs. He didnt.
Yup, Spurs wanted him to sign right away, Fulham wanted him back on loan for the rest of the season and Spurs basically told them to ram it.
Hopefully He is going higher than West Ham in the summertime and we are going to get 30 million for him.

Hopefully after we get out business done
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5 Jan 2017, 10:40 PM
Brendan was manager at Liverpool when they got the windfall from the deal that sent Suarez to Barcelona. I seem to remember that money was pretty much blown on a group of players who did not work out, which was the beginning of the end for Brendan at Anfield. How much input did he have on how the Suarez money was (mis)spent, or was he overruled by the higher-ups?
Rodgers was one of four people on the now infamous Liverpool transfer committee. Some of the signings they made that summer were baffling. Everyone remembers Balotelli but at least we know he's capable of brilliance and can see why they were tempted to gamble on him. But some of the other guys they brought in (Rickie Lambert!) were never cut out for that type of move in a million years.
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eff off West Ham!
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the mighty sparrow
5 Jan 2017, 10:40 PM
Brendan was manager at Liverpool when they got the windfall from the deal that sent Suarez to Barcelona. I seem to remember that money was pretty much blown on a group of players who did not work out, which was the beginning of the end for Brendan at Anfield. How much input did he have on how the Suarez money was (mis)spent, or was he overruled by the higher-ups?
I think it's harder to find value at the top end of the market than at our end of the market, I also think the pressure to succeed at top EPL clubs is suffocating whereas up here players like Dembele can take time to settle and deliver performances, again for the record I hope he stays until this time Next year at the earliest and I'm glad I don't have to make these calls but I think the mantra is trust BR as he's going to have a much better idea of a unrefusable offer than us!
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5 Jan 2017, 10:44 PM
the mighty sparrow
5 Jan 2017, 10:40 PM
Brendan was manager at Liverpool when they got the windfall from the deal that sent Suarez to Barcelona. I seem to remember that money was pretty much blown on a group of players who did not work out, which was the beginning of the end for Brendan at Anfield. How much input did he have on how the Suarez money was (mis)spent, or was he overruled by the higher-ups?
Rodgers was one of four people on the now infamous Liverpool transfer committee. Some of the signings they made that summer were baffling. Everyone remembers Balotelli but at least we know he's capable of brilliance and can see why they were tempted to gamble on him. But some of the other guys they brought in (Rickie Lambert!) were never cut out for that type of move in a million years.
Lambert was bought presuming that a mobile, pressing, first choice CF would be signed, Sanchez IIRC. He was to be a plan B player.
Balotelli was signed in a panic and the owners were trying to make a buck by getting Brendan to turn his career around.
Edited by TheVambo, 5 Jan 2017, 10:48 PM.
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