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Moussa Dembele
Topic Started: 28 Jun 2016, 11:59 AM (860,576 Views)
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Hairytoes
5 Jan 2017, 07:12 PM
Did he not knock back Spurs already?
Guy wants to win things, progress & become the best player in the world.
He's here to do that & he says he's happy.

Yes we're a stepping stone, but not to non elite clubs - even if they are in an elite league.
Hoping we now only sell our elite players directly to the elite clubs.
Na, Fulham wanted a 6 month loan-back agreement in the £6million bid last January. Tottenham refused and pulled the bid.

I guess Fulham were thinking they'd get at least that in compensation from an English club last summer, whilst Tottenham could assume they would be first choice.

I bet both club's managing directors regret that little game now!
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He's a good player. Strong, athletic, physical, but I don't see the top, top tier ability that many seem to. Only 20 I know, and could/should continue to improve, but don't think his touch/overall ability is at that level. See him more as a Ki/Denayer level player, rather than Wanyama/VVD/Forster level. Just one man's opinion (and I hate that we sold low on Vic/VVD/Forster), but 20m would be awfy tough for me to turn down. That said, if clubs wealthier than West Ham are willing to bid 30m over the summer, then spose it'd be folly to sell for 20m. Put in the good 'problem' to have column :thumbsup:

As an aside, how sick must Fulham be? :lol:
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West Ham :ffs: its top teams all the way for Moussa until he is 35 and goes to China for a million a week.
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TeddyB_NY
5 Jan 2017, 07:17 PM
He's a good player. Strong, athletic, physical, but I don't see the top, top tier ability that many seem to. Only 20 I know, and could/should continue to improve, but don't think his touch/overall ability is at that level. See him more as a Ki/Denayer level player, rather than Wanyama/VVD/Forster level. Just one man's opinion (and I hate that we sold low on Vic/VVD/Forster), but 20m would be awfy tough for me to turn down. That said, if clubs wealthier than West Ham are willing to bid 30m over the summer, then spose it'd be folly to sell for 20m. Put in the good 'problem' to have column :thumbsup:

As an aside, how sick must Fulham be? :lol:
Out of interest, what level player did you see Gary Hooper as when he was with us?
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Facking slaags :arrr:
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Irrelevant.

He's going to Bayern Munich.
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TeddyB_NY
5 Jan 2017, 07:17 PM
He's a good player. Strong, athletic, physical, but I don't see the top, top tier ability that many seem to. Only 20 I know, and could/should continue to improve, but don't think his touch/overall ability is at that level. See him more as a Ki/Denayer level player, rather than Wanyama/VVD/Forster level. Just one man's opinion (and I hate that we sold low on Vic/VVD/Forster), but 20m would be awfy tough for me to turn down. That said, if clubs wealthier than West Ham are willing to bid 30m over the summer, then spose it'd be folly to sell for 20m. Put in the good 'problem' to have column :thumbsup:

As an aside, how sick must Fulham be? :lol:
Away you go and stop wetting yer pants
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5 Jan 2017, 07:26 PM
Irrelevant.

He's going to Bayern Munich.
Have you seen the contract?
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Viva Dembele!

Viva la revolucion!
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TeddyB_NY
5 Jan 2017, 07:17 PM
He's a good player. Strong, athletic, physical, but I don't see the top, top tier ability that many seem to. Only 20 I know, and could/should continue to improve, but don't think his touch/overall ability is at that level. See him more as a Ki/Denayer level player, rather than Wanyama/VVD/Forster level. Just one man's opinion (and I hate that we sold low on Vic/VVD/Forster), but 20m would be awfy tough for me to turn down. That said, if clubs wealthier than West Ham are willing to bid 30m over the summer, then spose it'd be folly to sell for 20m. Put in the good 'problem' to have column :thumbsup:

As an aside, how sick must Fulham be? :lol:
He was unplayable at times in the Champions League. What tier does he have to perform at before you believe?

Re the money. Goalscorers tend to fetch higher fees than defenders or midfielders. Considering his age, his current rate of progress and his potential, £20m is not a lot of money.

He has all the attributes to play at the very top.
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5 Jan 2017, 07:08 PM
£20 million? They should stick to selling dildos, or keep a few back and go eff themselves.
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West Ham can lodge their £20million bid up their hole.
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He's not allowed out for the next few weeks and has to play indoors till the naughty boys have gone away.

20 million doesn't really cut it and it's not like we need the cash.
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5 Jan 2017, 07:28 PM
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TeddyB_NY
5 Jan 2017, 07:17 PM
He's a good player. Strong, athletic, physical, but I don't see the top, top tier ability that many seem to. Only 20 I know, and could/should continue to improve, but don't think his touch/overall ability is at that level. See him more as a Ki/Denayer level player, rather than Wanyama/VVD/Forster level. Just one man's opinion (and I hate that we sold low on Vic/VVD/Forster), but 20m would be awfy tough for me to turn down. That said, if clubs wealthier than West Ham are willing to bid 30m over the summer, then spose it'd be folly to sell for 20m. Put in the good 'problem' to have column :thumbsup:

As an aside, how sick must Fulham be? :lol:
He was unplayable at times in the Champions League. What tier does he have to perform at before you believe?

Re the money. Goalscorers tend to fetch higher fees than defenders or midfielders. Considering his age, his current rate of progress and his potential, £20m is not a lot of money.

He has all the attributes to play at the very top.
If he signs for West ham today he'll be worth £30 million tomorrow.

I don't believe West Ham think they'll get anywhere near him and certainly not for that cash.
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5 Jan 2017, 05:49 PM
20million after 6 months, what's another year and another CL campaign going to add?

We don't need to sell just now and we won't.
Exactly. Unless an insane offer comes in, we'd be crazy not to hold on to him for at least another year.
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TeddyB_NY
5 Jan 2017, 07:17 PM
He's a good player. Strong, athletic, physical, but I don't see the top, top tier ability that many seem to. Only 20 I know, and could/should continue to improve, but don't think his touch/overall ability is at that level. See him more as a Ki/Denayer level player, rather than Wanyama/VVD/Forster level. Just one man's opinion (and I hate that we sold low on Vic/VVD/Forster), but 20m would be awfy tough for me to turn down. That said, if clubs wealthier than West Ham are willing to bid 30m over the summer, then spose it'd be folly to sell for 20m. Put in the good 'problem' to have column :thumbsup:

As an aside, how sick must Fulham be? :lol:
Lot of nonsense. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of football can see how good Dembele is.
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5 Jan 2017, 07:20 PM
TeddyB_NY
5 Jan 2017, 07:17 PM
He's a good player. Strong, athletic, physical, but I don't see the top, top tier ability that many seem to. Only 20 I know, and could/should continue to improve, but don't think his touch/overall ability is at that level. See him more as a Ki/Denayer level player, rather than Wanyama/VVD/Forster level. Just one man's opinion (and I hate that we sold low on Vic/VVD/Forster), but 20m would be awfy tough for me to turn down. That said, if clubs wealthier than West Ham are willing to bid 30m over the summer, then spose it'd be folly to sell for 20m. Put in the good 'problem' to have column :thumbsup:

As an aside, how sick must Fulham be? :lol:
Out of interest, what level player did you see Gary Hooper as when he was with us?
I thought Hooper was really good and underrated for us. Thought his game was far more all-around than people gave him credit for: fantastic passer, great touch, super smart, did far more than just sit in the box (don't know where that rep came from). That said, didn't/wouldn't at all see him as top 6 type player---completely different level.

Dembele's clearly quite good and I like him as a player (who wouldn't?), but very different from Hooper---more about athleticism and strength. Very good in space, good in air, good with back to goal too.

Think Dembele's got more potential in EPL than Hooper did/does due to pace/physicality, which I think is especially important in that league. Just don't think he's the slam dunk, top tier level. When I saw VVD, Vic, Forster, they always seemed like 20m players to me. Moussa seems more like 10m level to me (or whatever level a notch below those three would be).

Great buy either way and great player to have. I just happen to think he's a bit below the level some have him at :thumbsup:
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5 Jan 2017, 07:39 PM
TeddyB_NY
5 Jan 2017, 07:17 PM
He's a good player. Strong, athletic, physical, but I don't see the top, top tier ability that many seem to. Only 20 I know, and could/should continue to improve, but don't think his touch/overall ability is at that level. See him more as a Ki/Denayer level player, rather than Wanyama/VVD/Forster level. Just one man's opinion (and I hate that we sold low on Vic/VVD/Forster), but 20m would be awfy tough for me to turn down. That said, if clubs wealthier than West Ham are willing to bid 30m over the summer, then spose it'd be folly to sell for 20m. Put in the good 'problem' to have column :thumbsup:

As an aside, how sick must Fulham be? :lol:
Lot of nonsense. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of football can see how good Dembele is.
Where did I say he wasn't good? Just happen to think he's a notch below the Vic/VVD/Forster rather than at their level. Doesn't at all mean I think he's not good.
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5 Jan 2017, 07:40 PM
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TeddyB_NY
5 Jan 2017, 07:17 PM
He's a good player. Strong, athletic, physical, but I don't see the top, top tier ability that many seem to. Only 20 I know, and could/should continue to improve, but don't think his touch/overall ability is at that level. See him more as a Ki/Denayer level player, rather than Wanyama/VVD/Forster level. Just one man's opinion (and I hate that we sold low on Vic/VVD/Forster), but 20m would be awfy tough for me to turn down. That said, if clubs wealthier than West Ham are willing to bid 30m over the summer, then spose it'd be folly to sell for 20m. Put in the good 'problem' to have column :thumbsup:

As an aside, how sick must Fulham be? :lol:
Out of interest, what level player did you see Gary Hooper as when he was with us?
I thought Hooper was really good and underrated for us. Thought his game was far more all-around than people gave him credit for: fantastic passer, great touch, super smart, did far more than just sit in the box (don't know where that rep came from). That said, didn't/wouldn't at all see him as top 6 type player---completely different level.

Dembele's clearly quite good and I like him as a player (who wouldn't?), but very different from Hooper---more about athleticism and strength. Very good in space, good in air, good with back to goal too.

Think Dembele's got more potential in EPL than Hooper did/does due to pace/physicality, which I think is especially important in that league. Just don't think he's the slam dunk, top tier level. When I saw VVD, Vic, Forster, they always seemed like 20m players to me. Moussa seems more like 10m level to me (or whatever level a notch below those three would be).

Great buy either way and great player to have. I just happen to think he's a bit below the level some have him at :thumbsup:
Dembele at 20 has for more to his game than Wanyama did.

And he does it at the end of the park matters.
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