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Moussa Dembele
Topic Started: 28 Jun 2016, 11:59 AM (860,598 Views)
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24 Dec 2016, 03:59 PM
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24 Dec 2016, 03:45 PM
Wasn't great when he came on but today wasn't the day to judge any of our players bar their attitude. I dont think any of our players were lacking in attitude today.
I thought he played really well?

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I thought he caused them no end of problems.
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Done well today. I personally think he's better than LG but to be honest just pleased we have then both!
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His strength was his only asset today. He was quite poor, decision making was bad. Took his goal well although is was on a plate. He needs to up it, looked lethargic.
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24 Dec 2016, 09:33 PM
His strength was his only asset today. He was quite poor, decision making was bad. Took his goal well although is was on a plate. He needs to up it, looked lethargic.
That's what I saw. :ponder:
About 3 it 4 times he made a little run and either lost the ball or passed it 4 yards to a Hamilton player. His hold up play is better than his link up play, hence I genuinely think he and Griffiths could do much damage together should they learn to work off each other.
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24 Dec 2016, 09:22 PM
Done well today. I personally think he's better than LG but to be honest just pleased we have then both!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/scottish-premiership/top-scorers

Interesting stats in here. Only relevant to SPFL but Griff averaging a goal in just over 90 mins.
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24 Dec 2016, 10:49 PM
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24 Dec 2016, 09:33 PM
His strength was his only asset today. He was quite poor, decision making was bad. Took his goal well although is was on a plate. He needs to up it, looked lethargic.
That's what I saw. :ponder:
About 3 it 4 times he made a little run and either lost the ball or passed it 4 yards to a Hamilton player. His hold up play is better than his link up play, hence I genuinely think he and Griffiths could do much damage together should they learn to work off each other.
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24 Dec 2016, 09:33 PM
His strength was his only asset today. He was quite poor, decision making was bad. Took his goal well although is was on a plate. He needs to up it, looked lethargic.
spot on
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Thought he was good yesterday. His size and age explain his awkwardness at times IMO. This will improve. Agree his touch has !et him down at rimes lately but yesterday was mental and wouldn't hold that against him. The good thing is well likely get a couple of seasons out of him!
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CALL ON ME Celtic star Moussa Dembele could be handed his first senior France cap after impressing boss Didier Deschamps
The Hoops kid is highly-regarded in his homeland and it might not be long before he makes his Les Bleus debut
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Can he defend corners though?
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Can he defend corners though?
He is actually really good at defending corners :thumbsup:
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Named checked by Deschamps.

CALL ON ME Celtic star Moussa Dembele could be handed his first senior France cap after impressing boss Didier Deschamps
The Hoops kid is highly-regarded in his homeland and it might not be long before he makes his Les Bleus debut
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High praise indeed.
Edited by bigkev, 26 Dec 2016, 01:20 PM.
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Doesn't seem to do as well coming off the bench. Reckon for this reason we will see him start against Rangera, with griff coming off the bench.
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Tbf he came off the bench and played very well on Saturday and was unlucky not sure score tonight.
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The guys a player and I think we all accept that he has just turned 20 so he will have spells when he needs rested. BR knows what he is doing.

As for Saturday he has scored 4 in 2 games against Sevco, think he might just get the nod.

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29 Dec 2016, 10:53 AM
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29 Dec 2016, 10:45 AM

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Do you disagree?

https://postimg.org/image/t6kelptar/
Most of us would have fallen on our arses trying to put that in. Opened up his body and placed the shot perfectly. Very good technically. Calling it a tap-in is a joke.
*Reposted from the griffiths thread*

Okay, so my reference to anyone on the forum scoring it was to highlight the ease of the chance. I didn't quite mean so literally that everyone on here could score that.

However, that was not a very good goal technically in any manner. That's as easy a goal he will ever score. Just because he opened his body up doesn't qualify it as technically good. Its a basic level of ability I would expect of any decent amateur striker to be able to open their body and pass into a relatively empty net, from a cut back with no great pace on it, standing completely unchallenged and with no pressure on him.

To reiterate, with both griff and dembele on form I believe dembele to be a better striker but his form is poor at the moment and his goal on Saturday didn't mask a below par performance.

Edited by Gunner, 29 Dec 2016, 11:04 AM.
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28 Dec 2016, 11:30 PM
Doesn't seem to do as well coming off the bench. Reckon for this reason we will see him start against Rangera, with griff coming off the bench.
:thumbsup: I'd agree, seems to struggle to get into the pace of the game at times. Probably has a lot to do with the team losing its shape and focus after 2/3 changes in the 2nd half of games though.
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29 Dec 2016, 11:03 AM
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29 Dec 2016, 10:49 AM
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29 Dec 2016, 10:45 AM

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https://postimg.org/image/t6kelptar/
You are completely disregarding the fact that Dembélé is unmarked with 2/3rd's of the goal to hit because he lost his marker and found the space. It's a tap-in because he makes it one. As for your "I've scored harder...blah..blah" unless you've done it in a top flight professional game you've really no comparison have you?

Dembélé has been off the boil the last few weeks, but it's statements like yours and similar ones made by others about Griffiths that have us in this trench warfare lobbing grenades at our own players in an attempt to make another look better.
What benefit do I or anyone else get by making any other player look good. I would rather dembele was in form as I think he's better than griffiths when he is. However, am I, or anyone else for that matter - now allowed to comment on someone's poor performance for fear of it being agenda driven to promote some other player!? Absurd!

I don't know either player, never met either, don't care for either any more or less than the other. What important to me is whoever plays is the inform player and at the time of the next match - whoever is most likely to do the damage. And In my opinion, dembele is lacking in form which his goal did not hide given the ease of it.

I don't say this or hold this opinion because I want to make any other player look better, I say it because (in my opinion) it simply is.

And regarding the goal, please go watch it again. He 100% does not lose his marker, he quite literally half jogs into the box completely unmarked. He's made zero movement to evade a marker whatsoever. You'll find the match highlight on BBC app.
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What benefit do I or anyone else get by making any other player look good. I would rather dembele was in form as I think he's better than griffiths when he is. However, am I, or anyone else for that matter - now allowed to comment on someone's poor performance for fear of it being agenda driven to promote some other player!? Absurd!

I don't know either player, never met either, don't care for either any more or less than the other. What important to me is whoever plays is the inform player and at the time of the next match - whoever is most likely to do the damage. And In my opinion, dembele is lacking in form which his goal did not hide given the ease of it.

I don't say this or hold this opinion because I want to make any other player look better, I say it because (in my opinion) it simply is.

And regarding the goal, please go watch it again. He 100% does not lose his marker, he quite literally half jogs into the box completely unmarked. He's made zero movement to evade a marker whatsoever. You'll find the match highlight on BBC app.
You're desperate to talk down one of our Strikers. Why? I don't know, ask yourself you'll get a more accurate answer.

I don't need to watch it again. You think it's a simple tap-in that anyone could score fair enough.

I think it's was somewhat harder than a tap in, and think you're talking absolute baws, but stick up your highlights reel of harder to score goals and I might reconsider your opinion.


Ah, so I'm desperate to talk down a striker! You've got me. I didn't realise I was having a conversation with one of the few who cannot tolerate any sort of criticism of our players just because he's one of our players. I didn't realise there was immunity to discussing obvious poor form.

I can't make it any clearer or say it in words any simpler for you to grasp, if dembele is on form I would have him start any game ahead of griff. I firmly believe he is better when he's on form. Do you understand that? Believe me, I would love dearly to have dembele on form and playing well so we don't even need to have this conversation and you can rest easy knowing that nobody is saying anyone in a Celtic jersey isn't playing well.

I think you do need to watch it again (but why bother, why let a fresh look at the goal alter your opinion in the interest of accuracy). If you think dembele has lost a marker to get that chance you've clearly remembered it differently than the reality. But I suppose, perception is reality so if your memory of the goal is so skewed then I understand why we're having this chat.

And my highlight reel is an irrelevance to this conversation, it doesn't make the chance any easier/harder for our French u21 20milliom rated superstar who's out of form. I could be the worst player to grace the earth, but it Doesn't take away Fromm the circumstances of the goal making it one of the easiest he will ever score.
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You're desperate to talk down one of our Strikers. Why? I don't know, ask yourself you'll get a more accurate answer.

I don't need to watch it again. You think it's a simple tap-in that anyone could score fair enough.

I think it's was somewhat harder than a tap in, and think you're talking absolute baws, but stick up your highlights reel of harder to score goals and I might reconsider your opinion.


Ah, so I'm desperate to talk down a striker! You've got me. I didn't realise I was having a conversation with one of the few who cannot tolerate any sort of criticism of our players just because he's one of our players. I didn't realise there was immunity to discussing obvious poor form.

I can't make it any clearer or say it in words any simpler for you to grasp, if dembele is on form I would have him start any game ahead of griff. I firmly believe he is better when he's on form. Do you understand that? Believe me, I would love dearly to have dembele on form and playing well so we don't even need to have this conversation and you can rest easy knowing that nobody is saying anyone in a Celtic jersey isn't playing well.

I think you do need to watch it again (but why bother, why let a fresh look at the goal alter your opinion in the interest of accuracy). If you think dembele has lost a marker to get that chance you've clearly remembered it differently than the reality. But I suppose, perception is reality so if your memory of the goal is so skewed then I understand why we're having this chat.

And my highlight reel is an irrelevance to this conversation, it doesn't make the chance any easier/harder for our French u21 20milliom rated superstar who's out of form. I could be the worst player to grace the earth, but it Doesn't take away Fromm the circumstances of the goal making it one of the easiest he will ever score.
You never said it was one of the easiest he's score, you said that it was one that anyone on this board could score, look back that's the only part of your post I highlighted in my original response. I picked you up on your hyperbole, which you've now changed in your other posts.

I never said you couldn't have an opinion, look at my subsequent posts I said myself Dembele is off the boil, I never said you couldn't comment on players form this is also hyperbole.

I don't need to watch the goal again as I've seen it on numerous occasions, I'm one of these saddos that watches our highlights several times before the next game.

Your highlight reel is relevant because you were using your apparent prowess as a striker, as a measuring stick to how difficult Dembele's goal was to score. If you don't want others to compare you, then don't compare yourself in the first place.

I commented on your post initially because of your hyperbole, both the Griffiths and Dembele threads are full of it, the only way for real discussion to take place though is if the hyperbole stops.

By all means have your opinion I'm in no way saying you can't or aren't entitled to post it, but don't post telling us how you could score the goal "our French u21 20milliom rated superstar" did and not expect to be pulled on it. :thumbsup:
Edited by Dogg, 29 Dec 2016, 11:48 AM.
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