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danbhoy09
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18 Nov 2016, 05:16 PM
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Even if a crazy bid does come in January or the summer, what's to say the man himself would want to go? He's come here to develop as a player, he's not going to have developed all that much within 1 year - let alone 6 months.
Hope he stays.
An elite club comes in with a major bid and he'll be off. Lets not kid ourselves on now. This was a stepping stone arrangement and thats cool. Don't get me wrong, I understand that if a major bid comes in, we as a club would be frothing at the bit to sell; however, if the player himself is truly interested in his own development, then he will stay until at least the summer of 2018. Otherwise, why even join us in the first place when he could have went to a club like Tottenham straight away?
All hypothetical, but it would be interesting to see what happens should a major bid come in - we want to sell but the player wants to stay.
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18 Nov 2016, 05:20 PM
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Even if a crazy bid does come in January or the summer, what's to say the man himself would want to go? He's come here to develop as a player, he's not going to have developed all that much within 1 year - let alone 6 months.
Hope he stays.
An elite club comes in with a major bid and he'll be off. Lets not kid ourselves on now. This was a stepping stone arrangement and thats cool. If you mean in January, I disagree. If he's worth a fortune now, his value will only increase 18 months from now which is when we're most likely to sell him.
It'd be idiotic to sell him now, and we're idiots for even discussing selling him when he's been here for less than half a season. Hopefully that nonsense quietens down once we're back to seeing domestic football again.
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18 Nov 2016, 05:22 PM
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Even if a crazy bid does come in January or the summer, what's to say the man himself would want to go? He's come here to develop as a player, he's not going to have developed all that much within 1 year - let alone 6 months.
Hope he stays.
An elite club comes in with a major bid and he'll be off. Lets not kid ourselves on now. This was a stepping stone arrangement and thats cool.
Don't get me wrong, I understand that if a major bid comes in, we as a club would be frothing at the bit to sell; however, if the player himself is truly interested in his own development, then he will stay until at least the summer of 2018. Otherwise, why even join us in the first place when he could have went to a club like Tottenham straight away? All hypothetical, but it would be interesting to see what happens should a major bid come in - we want to sell but the player wants to stay. A fee was never agreed with Tottenham last January and the cross-border compensation rules didnt apply in the summer so he didnt get offered the chance to move.
From Moussa, his agents and Celtic's point of view, its job done already. He's now allegedly on the radar of 3-4 major clubs in Europe after CL exposure and tearing up Scotland. If any of them bid, he'll happily quadruple his wages and develop elsewhere. Why wouldnt he? And he will go with club and fans blessing.
I hope he stays for two years but I'm also realistic.
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18 Nov 2016, 05:23 PM
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Even if a crazy bid does come in January or the summer, what's to say the man himself would want to go? He's come here to develop as a player, he's not going to have developed all that much within 1 year - let alone 6 months.
Hope he stays.
An elite club comes in with a major bid and he'll be off. Lets not kid ourselves on now. This was a stepping stone arrangement and thats cool.
If you mean in January, I disagree. If he's worth a fortune now, his value will only increase 18 months from now which is when we're most likely to sell him. It'd be idiotic to sell him now, and we're idiots for even discussing selling him when he's been here for less than half a season. Hopefully that nonsense quietens down once we're back to seeing domestic football again. I'm extremely cool that you disagree with my opinion over a hypothetical situation
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18 Nov 2016, 05:24 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I understand that if a major bid comes in, we as a club would be frothing at the bit to sell; however, if the player himself is truly interested in his own development, then he will stay until at least the summer of 2018. Otherwise, why even join us in the first place when he could have went to a club like Tottenham straight away? All hypothetical, but it would be interesting to see what happens should a major bid come in - we want to sell but the player wants to stay.
A fee was never agreed with Tottenham last January and the cross-border compensation rules didnt apply in the summer so he didnt get offered the chance to move. From Moussa, his agents and Celtic's point of view, its job done already. He's now allegedly on the radar of 3-4 major clubs in Europe after CL exposure and tearing up Scotland. If any of them bid, he'll happily quadruple his wages and develop elsewhere. Why wouldnt he? And he will go with club and fans blessing. I hope he stays for two years but I'm also realistic. Are you sure there wasn't a fee agreed last January for him? I'm positive Tottenham had a 6m bid accepted on the last day of the window but it collapsed a the last minute?
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18 Nov 2016, 05:26 PM
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A fee was never agreed with Tottenham last January and the cross-border compensation rules didnt apply in the summer so he didnt get offered the chance to move. From Moussa, his agents and Celtic's point of view, its job done already. He's now allegedly on the radar of 3-4 major clubs in Europe after CL exposure and tearing up Scotland. If any of them bid, he'll happily quadruple his wages and develop elsewhere. Why wouldnt he? And he will go with club and fans blessing. I hope he stays for two years but I'm also realistic.
Are you sure there wasn't a fee agreed last January for him? I'm positive Tottenham had a 6m bid accepted on the last day of the window but it collapsed a the last minute? No, not 100%.
But read somewhere (and can't find it ) that move broke down between clubs, not a refusal by Dembele as he didnt think he'd get game time (as poster inferred).
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18 Nov 2016, 05:32 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I understand that if a major bid comes in, we as a club would be frothing at the bit to sell; however, if the player himself is truly interested in his own development, then he will stay until at least the summer of 2018. Otherwise, why even join us in the first place when he could have went to a club like Tottenham straight away? All hypothetical, but it would be interesting to see what happens should a major bid come in - we want to sell but the player wants to stay.
A fee was never agreed with Tottenham last January and the cross-border compensation rules didnt apply in the summer so he didnt get offered the chance to move. From Moussa, his agents and Celtic's point of view, its job done already. He's now allegedly on the radar of 3-4 major clubs in Europe after CL exposure and tearing up Scotland. If any of them bid, he'll happily quadruple his wages and develop elsewhere. Why wouldnt he? And he will go with club and fans blessing. I hope he stays for two years but I'm also realistic. Maybe I am romanticing the situation somewhat suggesting that he'd stay solely for his own development and first team football. I guess when all said and done, money talks and, chances are, if a "big" team comes a calling, he will go.
I just really hope it is a big team he moves onto and not a Tottenham, Southampton or A N Other EPL team with vast riches.
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18 Nov 2016, 05:36 PM
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A fee was never agreed with Tottenham last January and the cross-border compensation rules didnt apply in the summer so he didnt get offered the chance to move. From Moussa, his agents and Celtic's point of view, its job done already. He's now allegedly on the radar of 3-4 major clubs in Europe after CL exposure and tearing up Scotland. If any of them bid, he'll happily quadruple his wages and develop elsewhere. Why wouldnt he? And he will go with club and fans blessing. I hope he stays for two years but I'm also realistic.
Maybe I am romanticing the situation somewhat suggesting that he'd stay solely for his own development and first team football. I guess when all said and done, money talks and, chances are, if a "big" team comes a calling, he will go. I just really hope it is a big team he moves onto and not a Tottenham, Southampton or A N Other EPL team with vast riches. Its ok to be idealistic, but we need to be realistic too. I hope he stays to year 2 at least
I don't think he'll go to a mid-level club like Southampton. Tottenham aren't far away from being a CL regular though.
Dembele has a top pedigree (and national team) and I guess that will maximise price too.
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18 Nov 2016, 05:37 PM
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I think the terrifying thing with Dembele is he is nowhere near the finished article. Still makes some basic errors but yet in spells looks an absolute powerhouse even and CL level. If he progresses at this rate by the time he is 25 he is going to be awesome.
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18 Nov 2016, 05:46 PM
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Are you sure there wasn't a fee agreed last January for him? I'm positive Tottenham had a 6m bid accepted on the last day of the window but it collapsed a the last minute?
No, not 100%. But read somewhere (and can't find it  ) that move broke down between clubs, not a refusal by Dembele as he didnt think he'd get game time (as poster inferred). I thought a fee of £6m was agreed but the move broke down due to Fulham insisting on Moussa being loaned back to them for the rest of the season because they needed his goals in their fight to avoid relegation.
Tottenham weren't in agreement and that was that.
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18 Nov 2016, 05:47 PM
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No, not 100%. But read somewhere (and can't find it  ) that move broke down between clubs, not a refusal by Dembele as he didnt think he'd get game time (as poster inferred).
I thought a fee of £6m was agreed but the move broke down because Fulham insisted on Moussa being loaned back to them for the rest of the season because they needed his goals in their fight to avoid relegation. Tottenham weren't in agreement and that was that.
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19 Nov 2016, 08:45 AM
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If he does go this coming transfer window or in the summer.. I reckon we could negotiate a loan back deal. To keep him for a season or 2 further.
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19 Nov 2016, 08:53 AM
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Played ok last night but some of his link up play was too sloppy.
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19 Nov 2016, 08:59 AM
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I think we will get 2 seasons, and I hope we have the balls to refuse all pre signing/loan back offers in the meantime.
I think he is passed the point of it being a risk to hold on that time.
Van Nistelrooy picked up a serious injury and it didn't stop him getting his big move to Man Utd.
2 seasons with his current trajectory and we'll get £35/40 million
As great as Moussa's potential is, no Scottish club will receive more than £20-25million for one player in the foreseeable future. No shame in that BTW, it was only 7 seasons ago that our best striker was sold for £3.5 million so perspective is everything. See your other predictions i.e Griffiths' transfer value. Agree otherwise, he's going nowhere this season Are you talking about Scott McDonald?
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19 Nov 2016, 09:04 AM
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I think we will get 2 seasons, and I hope we have the balls to refuse all pre signing/loan back offers in the meantime.
I think he is passed the point of it being a risk to hold on that time.
Van Nistelrooy picked up a serious injury and it didn't stop him getting his big move to Man Utd.
2 seasons with his current trajectory and we'll get £35/40 million
As great as Moussa's potential is, no Scottish club will receive more than £20-25million for one player in the foreseeable future. No shame in that BTW, it was only 7 seasons ago that our best striker was sold for £3.5 million so perspective is everything. See your other predictions i.e Griffiths' transfer value. Agree otherwise, he's going nowhere this season
Are you talking about Scott McDonald? Perspective is everything.
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19 Nov 2016, 11:11 AM
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Played ok last night but some of his link up play was too sloppy. Thought he was better than ok, his back heel for McGregor's chance was brilliant play. Wasn't quite as effective as past games but I thought it was more down to the service in the final third. He also set up the goal.
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19 Nov 2016, 11:22 AM
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Played ok last night but some of his link up play was too sloppy.
Thought he was better than ok, his back heel for McGregor's chance was brilliant play. Wasn't quite as effective as past games but I thought it was more down to the service in the final third. He also set up the goal.
Terrible service to him last night.
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19 Nov 2016, 12:03 PM
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Again, we buy in January. His replacement will be bedded in before we sell him - at a time that suits us.
We have failed to buy before selling in the past, what's different now? When we lost Hooper we dicked around for years trying to replace before Griffiths came along. We bought VVD to play alongside Wilson before he decided to leave, so that wasn't a replacement bought up front as such. I just don't see where your pulling that strategy from? Yes it makes sense to us fans but the board have never really done it that way in the past. Years? We signed Griffiths 6 months after Hooper left.
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19 Nov 2016, 12:05 PM
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Moussa played well last night when he was brought into play.
The ball seemed to bounce off him a lot though when it was pumped forward.
Some of his touches to play people in at times are oustanding.
Edited by Ste, 19 Nov 2016, 12:05 PM.
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20 Nov 2016, 09:16 AM
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Some of his touches to play people in at times are oustanding. His pass to play in Sinclair in the 5-1 game against Sevco was exceptional
Edited by adbhoy, 20 Nov 2016, 09:16 AM.
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