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Moussa Dembele
Topic Started: 28 Jun 2016, 11:59 AM (860,614 Views)
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Kingslim
16 Nov 2016, 02:21 PM
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A typical forward line these days only consists of one striker and there is plenty of them at the highest levels of the game. There is no shortage of players with the ability to play up top on there own. A striker can have all the attributes in the world but if he can't put the ball in the back of the net it means nothing.

I think we are getting way ahead of ourselves here and need to reign it in a bit. Potential to be better than Drogba and Shearer? Two of the best strikers the Premier League has ever seen right there. To become half the player any of them where in their prime he has a lot of improving to do.

It looks like I'm having a go at him as a player - I'm not. I think he has been tremendous for us this season but there is definitely parts of his game that need to improve before any comparisons to Drogba or Shearer would be met with anything other than laughter.

Messi and Ronaldo may be coming to the later parts of their careers but Messi had already made his debut for Barcelona and Argentina by the age of 18.

Dybala cost Juventus 32m euros.

Yeah, these days a lot of teams play with one striker. I meant in years gone by.

You would have a 30 goals per season - Griffiths or McDonald type then you would have a 10-20 target man type Sutton/JVH/Hartson - Dembele is both rolled into one - that was my point. Although plenty of teams play with one up front there aren't many who lead the line and score the goals. Dembele is of that mould and we he shouldn't be undervalued.

As for Drogba and Shearer - Dembele is alredy playing CL football. Drogba never played there until he moved to Chelsea and Shearer had a couple of seasons in it - one in the earlier years with Blackburn and once with Newcastle if memory serves me correctly. Dembele has proven himself in a tough group at the age of 20. That's better progress than those two particularly at that age.

he has plenty to work on with his game and nobody is suggesting he's the finished article but he's well on his way to becoming the complete striker.
If he starts hitting a ball like Shearer did or bullying like Drogba, then I'd say his potential fee would top £40m.

That sounds a bit silly saying that.

'Celtic player, worth £40m.' :twitch:
Still, if he gets as close as either player mentioned, he'll be easily worth that. :thumbsup:
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The Rag is saying Man Utd are planning a bid for Dembele in January.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/celtic-striker-moussa-dembele-january-9275821
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17 Nov 2016, 11:25 AM
We'll only begin talking when £25m is put on the table. :arrr:
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17 Nov 2016, 11:25 AM
We'll only begin talking when £25m is put on the table. :arrr:
No worries ill let Mourinho know :thumbsup:
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He won't be sold in Jan ffs.

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I think he'll be here for at least another season.

He's improving at a rate of knots and he is working under the perfect manager to develop a young striker like him. The biggest mistake he could make would be to move too soon and end up sitting on the bench at one of the big beasts. Plenty of players with just as much potential as Moussa have seen their careers stall by making a bad move at the wrong time.

For just now, he's in the right place for him and for us.
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I don't think he's ready for a move to a Man Utd yet.
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He won't be sold in Jan ffs.

If a team bids £25m, he absolutely will. A £24.5m profit in half a year, on an asset who at any time could get injured or suffer a dip in form that would reduce his value? The board would snap the hand off that. It doesn't matter how good Dembele will eventually be; he plays in Scotland and is only likely to have two more games in Europe this season (the only stage on which his value could really change). In all likelihood we will struggle in those games, given the opposition.

I don't think anybody will bid that amount and I don't think he'll go, but there is a limit on the price we can put on him.
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17 Nov 2016, 12:06 PM
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He won't be sold in Jan ffs.

If a team bids £25m, he absolutely will. A £24.5m profit in half a year, on an asset who at any time could get injured or suffer a dip in form that would reduce his value? The board would snap the hand off that. It doesn't matter how good Dembele will eventually be; he plays in Scotland and is only likely to have two more games in Europe this season (the only stage on which his value could really change). In all likelihood we will struggle in those games, given the opposition.

I don't think anybody will bid that amount and I don't think he'll go, but there is a limit on the price we can put on him.
I don't think he'd go. He signed here to learn his trade and get game time. Hes has Zlatan & Rashford (spelling) to compete with. He's not daft, he's here till January 2018 at least IMO
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17 Nov 2016, 11:35 AM
He won't be sold in Jan ffs.

If a team bids £25m, he absolutely will. A £24.5m profit in half a year, on an asset who at any time could get injured or suffer a dip in form that would reduce his value? The board would snap the hand off that. It doesn't matter how good Dembele will eventually be; he plays in Scotland and is only likely to have two more games in Europe this season (the only stage on which his value could really change). In all likelihood we will struggle in those games, given the opposition.

I don't think anybody will bid that amount and I don't think he'll go, but there is a limit on the price we can put on him.
We've never sold anyone decent in the January transfer window, and we won't be starting this year.
The board won't piss off BR 6 months into his tenure.

'Oh but £25 million!'
Those offers will still be there in the summer.
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Moussa is going nowhere in January.
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17 Nov 2016, 11:35 AM
He won't be sold in Jan ffs.

If a team bids £25m, he absolutely will. A £24.5m profit in half a year, on an asset who at any time could get injured or suffer a dip in form that would reduce his value? The board would snap the hand off that. It doesn't matter how good Dembele will eventually be; he plays in Scotland and is only likely to have two more games in Europe this season (the only stage on which his value could really change). In all likelihood we will struggle in those games, given the opposition.

I don't think anybody will bid that amount and I don't think he'll go, but there is a limit on the price we can put on him.
We've never sold anyone decent in the January transfer window, and we won't be starting this year.
The board won't piss off BR 6 months into his tenure.

'Oh but £25 million!'
Those offers will still be there in the summer.
I don't think he'll go in January, either.

As for the same offer being there in the summer, what are you basing that on? His value this season will reach its peak in January, from then until the summer he'll (almost certainly) have no European football; the amount of SPL goals he may score in the second half of the season won't count for that much in the eyes of potential buyers. That's if things go well, a lot can happen in five months of football. He could get injured; suffer a dip in form; fall out with management; he or his agent might change their mind and decide now is the time to chase the money or 'step up a level'. Of course none of those things might happen, but my point is between January and the summer, there's nothing that could increase his value above what it will be in January (unless we get European football after xmas).

I don't think he'll go in January; but the club wouldn't think twice about selling him if the (bullshampoo) offer of £25m is true. IMO. :thumbsup:
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Should he continue to improve at the rate he currently is, we would likely obtain significantly more financial return if sees out his contract and leaves after four years on a free.

I mean- having a truly great number 9, with a burgeoning international reputation and the ability to score at the highest level obviously enhances prospects in Europe. It would also likely increase the prospects of being able to sign other highly promising players.

Even if it had no financial impact, I would much much prefer he stayed for the term of his contract. He is just great to watch, and is rapidly showing that he is a real star.

Thank you for your interest in the position of CEO at Celtic.

I am afraid you have not been successful in progressing to the next stage of the selection process.

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Can't see him going in January but money does speak. If a large enough bid came in, the board would take it. Anything less than 15m, I reckon they would reject.
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The player will not accept any transfer this January. He has a career plan and will stick to it
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17 Nov 2016, 02:24 PM
The player will not accept any transfer this January. He has a career plan and will stick to it
Thank you mate.
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17 Nov 2016, 02:21 PM
Can't see him going in January but money does speak. If a large enough bid came in, the board would take it. Anything less than 15m, I reckon they would reject.
Why though? He's 20 years old and on a 4 year contract... his value is only going to increase. There is absolutely no need to sell him in this window, or the next.
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Can't see him going in January but money does speak. If a large enough bid came in, the board would take it. Anything less than 15m, I reckon they would reject.
Why though? He's 20 years old and on a 4 year contract... his value is only going to increase. There is absolutely no need to sell him in this window, or the next.
Because we are a club that signs players, develops them and sells them for a large profit; Rodgers said as much today when asked about these stories. We're not in financial peril and we don't 'need' to sell, but a large offer will be accepted. That is how the club is run.

His value will increase if he continues to score on the big stage, which is a big if, but not because of ability. What if we don't make the CL next year? What if he gets a knee injury and is out for 8+ months? The idea that everything will absolutely go to plan is not rational.

I want him to stay and I think he will be here until at least the summer, but if a huge bid comes it will be accepted. It has been in the past few years and it will be again.
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I've rarely seen a young player as focused as Moussa. He knows exactly what he wants and showed that very early on when he left PSG for Fulham at 16. The idea that he'll cut and run in January when he could have joined Spurs or others for much more money before he joined us is risible.

As is the idea that the board would undercut all our manager's planning having paid top dollar to get him and seen him take us into the group stages. :brickwall:

Moussa is going nowhere. :)
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