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16 Nov 2016, 10:24 AM
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- 16 Nov 2016, 03:30 AM
Do you think he writes his own tweets? If so, his English is really good going by some of his previous posts
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16 Nov 2016, 10:51 AM
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I dont think he does.
whoever it is says thanks for your support in 99% of his tweets
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16 Nov 2016, 11:17 AM
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- 14 Nov 2016, 10:21 PM
After the free kick went in,the commentator says 'Celtic will be lucky to hang on to him if he keeps it up'.
That we know,£20 million minimum thank you. Martial went to Man Utd for £36 million, potentially rising to £58 million.
Dembele's as good as him.
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16 Nov 2016, 11:28 AM
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Excellent mate, cheers for posting. Could Hoops in Paris tell us more about how the French media etc view him? merci in advance
Since his hat-trick and the goals Man City, Moussa gets regular reviews in l'Equipe. It's very unusual for player in Scotland. L'Equipe gives a brief Scottish Premiership update focused on the league leaders, now renamed Dembélé's Celtic. He is also included in their weird European top scorers table, which normally includes players from the four big leagues and Ligue 1 only. His goals with the U21 are remarked too. Their website has a picture of him for the win yesterday, subtitled "Moussa Dembélé shines again" L'Equipe sets the tone for the rest. His career plan is praised as more intelligent than his former QSG youth team mates, like Augustin who can't get a game, or even Coman who isn't a regular starter yet. But there are lot of strikers and attacking midfielders in his generation who get more reviews, playing in Ligue 1 : MBappé, the new Thierry Henry, Lemar, who got his first call-up this week, and Jean ta Monaco ; Plea and Cyprien (who scored the third yesterday) with Nice ; Cornet (Lyon) ; Ousmane Dembélé (Rennes, now Dortmund). MBappé and Plea are the only two "number 9s" out of that are they not?
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16 Nov 2016, 11:29 AM
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- 16 Nov 2016, 09:51 AM
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- 15 Nov 2016, 09:00 PM
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A typical forward line these days only consists of one striker and there is plenty of them at the highest levels of the game. There is no shortage of players with the ability to play up top on there own. A striker can have all the attributes in the world but if he can't put the ball in the back of the net it means nothing. I think we are getting way ahead of ourselves here and need to reign it in a bit. Potential to be better than Drogba and Shearer? Two of the best strikers the Premier League has ever seen right there. To become half the player any of them where in their prime he has a lot of improving to do. It looks like I'm having a go at him as a player - I'm not. I think he has been tremendous for us this season but there is definitely parts of his game that need to improve before any comparisons to Drogba or Shearer would be met with anything other than laughter. Messi and Ronaldo may be coming to the later parts of their careers but Messi had already made his debut for Barcelona and Argentina by the age of 18. Dybala cost Juventus 32m euros.
Andy Carroll cost Liverpool 30m on the back of a season in the championship. Think about that. I'm on my phone will give a more in depth reply later. Gary Hooper scored more in the same season and went to Celtic for pennies in comparison.
Carrolls transfer was a complete nonsense. Newcastle didn't need the money and Liverpool were panic buying after losing Torres.
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16 Nov 2016, 11:32 AM
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- 15 Nov 2016, 03:42 PM
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- 15 Nov 2016, 03:37 PM
He could see out his 4 years here and leave for free.
That would be great. Yeah wouldn't complain with over 4 years of the big man for £500k plus wages.
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16 Nov 2016, 11:41 AM
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Starting to see an increasing amount of wailing in the smsm questioning why a bigger/English club didn't sign him in the summer 
Though Lee Clark says he watched him at Fulham and knew he would be a star, but wasn't surprised he chose us because "Celtic and Rangers are both massive clubs" 
Presumably because luring Joe Garner north is an equivalent coup.
Edited by 33-rpm, 16 Nov 2016, 11:42 AM.
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16 Nov 2016, 11:49 AM
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Madrid can eff off  If he is worth £20M just now his value is just going to rocket. Our board know that and they aren't going to drop their suit trousers for the first offer that comes their way. We are a selling club. Under no illusions of that but this kid is going straight to the top. We will cash in for much higher than £20M. Zidane has helped us everytime he opens his mouth about Moussa. He absolutely raves about the kid. When one of the games greats goes weak at the knees you know you have a talent on your hands.
It would be a very stupid move for Dembele as it's a heavily odds on chance that RM will have a new manager in place in 2 years time.
A new manager for Real Madrid would not necessarily be a new manager for Moussa
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16 Nov 2016, 11:53 AM
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He could see out his 4 years here and leave for free.
That would be great.
Yeah wouldn't complain with over 4 years of the big man for £500k plus wages. Should he continue to improve at the rate he currently is, we would likely obtain significantly more financial return if sees out his contract and leaves after four years on a free.
I mean- having a truly great number 9, with a burgeoning international reputation and the ability to score at the highest level obviously enhances prospects in Europe. It would also likely increase the prospects of being able to sign other highly promising players.
Even if it had no financial impact, I would much much prefer he stayed for the term of his contract. He is just great to watch, and is rapidly showing that he is a real star.
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16 Nov 2016, 12:10 PM
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Yeah wouldn't complain with over 4 years of the big man for £500k plus wages.
Should he continue to improve at the rate he currently is, we would likely obtain significantly more financial return if sees out his contract and leaves after four years on a free. I mean- having a truly great number 9, with a burgeoning international reputation and the ability to score at the highest level obviously enhances prospects in Europe. It would also likely increase the prospects of being able to sign other highly promising players. Even if it had no financial impact, I would much much prefer he stayed for the term of his contract. He is just great to watch, and is rapidly showing that he is a real star.
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16 Nov 2016, 12:13 PM
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Since his hat-trick and the goals Man City, Moussa gets regular reviews in l'Equipe. It's very unusual for player in Scotland. L'Equipe gives a brief Scottish Premiership update focused on the league leaders, now renamed Dembélé's Celtic. He is also included in their weird European top scorers table, which normally includes players from the four big leagues and Ligue 1 only. His goals with the U21 are remarked too. Their website has a picture of him for the win yesterday, subtitled "Moussa Dembélé shines again" L'Equipe sets the tone for the rest. His career plan is praised as more intelligent than his former QSG youth team mates, like Augustin who can't get a game, or even Coman who isn't a regular starter yet. But there are lot of strikers and attacking midfielders in his generation who get more reviews, playing in Ligue 1 : MBappé, the new Thierry Henry, Lemar, who got his first call-up this week, and Jean ta Monaco ; Plea and Cyprien (who scored the third yesterday) with Nice ; Cornet (Lyon) ; Ousmane Dembélé (Rennes, now Dortmund).
MBappé and Plea are the only two "number 9s" out of that are they not? JK Augustin too, although he's a bit smaller. But you have to count with Lacazette and Benzema, and France can play with a Gameiro or Griezmann upfront. Last night for instance. France have never had so many attacking options with good prospects breaking through early in their careers. If Moussa manages to get in the squad before the next World Cup while at Celtic, it would be a tremendous achievement.
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16 Nov 2016, 02:21 PM
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- 16 Nov 2016, 09:51 AM
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You don't look at the goals they score from open play, you look at what attributes they have. Players have various attributes but it's not very often you get a player who is two players rolled into one. A typical forward line would consist of a goal scorer and a target man i.e. Larsson/Sutton. Dembele brings it all. Those type of players are extremely hard to come by. Players like Drogba and Shearer are those type of players are few and far between. Dembele has the potential to be even better than them imo. The boy is outstanding and is going to be the complete striker that every top club in Europe will be wanting to sign. His CL goals have come in arguably the toughest group which only adds significance to his value. Messi and Ronaldo are on the way out. I fully believe him when he says he wants to become the best player in the world.
A typical forward line these days only consists of one striker and there is plenty of them at the highest levels of the game. There is no shortage of players with the ability to play up top on there own. A striker can have all the attributes in the world but if he can't put the ball in the back of the net it means nothing. I think we are getting way ahead of ourselves here and need to reign it in a bit. Potential to be better than Drogba and Shearer? Two of the best strikers the Premier League has ever seen right there. To become half the player any of them where in their prime he has a lot of improving to do. It looks like I'm having a go at him as a player - I'm not. I think he has been tremendous for us this season but there is definitely parts of his game that need to improve before any comparisons to Drogba or Shearer would be met with anything other than laughter. Messi and Ronaldo may be coming to the later parts of their careers but Messi had already made his debut for Barcelona and Argentina by the age of 18. Dybala cost Juventus 32m euros. Yeah, these days a lot of teams play with one striker. I meant in years gone by.
You would have a 30 goals per season - Griffiths or McDonald type then you would have a 10-20 target man type Sutton/JVH/Hartson - Dembele is both rolled into one - that was my point. Although plenty of teams play with one up front there aren't many who lead the line and score the goals. Dembele is of that mould and we he shouldn't be undervalued.
As for Drogba and Shearer - Dembele is alredy playing CL football. Drogba never played there until he moved to Chelsea and Shearer had a couple of seasons in it - one in the earlier years with Blackburn and once with Newcastle if memory serves me correctly. Dembele has proven himself in a tough group at the age of 20. That's better progress than those two particularly at that age.
he has plenty to work on with his game and nobody is suggesting he's the finished article but he's well on his way to becoming the complete striker.
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16 Nov 2016, 02:40 PM
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I think when you are asking for £30m for a striker then he will be judged mainly on how many goals he scores from open play - that's why it matters IMO. He's scored 2 goals from open play in the Champions League and 1 of them was offside. My point is that for a player playing in Scotland to go for £30m then he needs to be an absolute stand out in the CL. Dembele has been a stand out for us and has been good by anyones standards but is it enough to get £30m? I'm not so sure.
You don't look at the goals they score from open play, you look at what attributes they have. Players have various attributes but it's not very often you get a player who is two players rolled into one. A typical forward line would consist of a goal scorer and a target man i.e. Larsson/Sutton. Dembele brings it all. Those type of players are extremely hard to come by. Players like Drogba and Shearer are those type of players are few and far between. Dembele has the potential to be even better than them imo. The boy is outstanding and is going to be the complete striker that every top club in Europe will be wanting to sign. His CL goals have come in arguably the toughest group which only adds significance to his value. Messi and Ronaldo are on the way out. I fully believe him when he says he wants to become the best player in the world. Messi is on the way out?
He's 29 and could easily play for another 6 or 7 years and be top class IMO.
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16 Nov 2016, 02:53 PM
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You don't look at the goals they score from open play, you look at what attributes they have. Players have various attributes but it's not very often you get a player who is two players rolled into one. A typical forward line would consist of a goal scorer and a target man i.e. Larsson/Sutton. Dembele brings it all. Those type of players are extremely hard to come by. Players like Drogba and Shearer are those type of players are few and far between. Dembele has the potential to be even better than them imo. The boy is outstanding and is going to be the complete striker that every top club in Europe will be wanting to sign. His CL goals have come in arguably the toughest group which only adds significance to his value. Messi and Ronaldo are on the way out. I fully believe him when he says he wants to become the best player in the world.
Messi is on the way out? He's 29 and could easily play for another 6 or 7 years and be top class IMO. Well at the back end of his career. Not saying he's past it 
By the the time MD peaks they will be gone
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16 Nov 2016, 03:41 PM
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Yeah wouldn't complain with over 4 years of the big man for £500k plus wages.
Should he continue to improve at the rate he currently is, we would likely obtain significantly more financial return if sees out his contract and leaves after four years on a free. I mean- having a truly great number 9, with a burgeoning international reputation and the ability to score at the highest level obviously enhances prospects in Europe. It would also likely increase the prospects of being able to sign other highly promising players. Even if it had no financial impact, I would much much prefer he stayed for the term of his contract. He is just great to watch, and is rapidly showing that he is a real star. Not a chance. I hope we can keep as long as possible like everyone else but I'd certainly not allow the player to run down his contract if he keeps improving as he has. If anything hopefully he signs an extension on higher wages and the club then would have the ability to sell for as large a fee as possible. If they are doing there job correctly the club would have a replacement lined up for a fraction of the money we would receive for Moussa.
He has the potential to go to the very top imo.
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16 Nov 2016, 09:37 PM
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Love that he messages BR after the France game to say he wanted to be on free kicks now.
Light-hearted, but shows a connection with the manager and that his thoughts are with us and not all the clubs he's being linked with
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16 Nov 2016, 09:43 PM
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Love that he messages BR after the France game to say he wanted to be on free kicks now.
Light-hearted, but shows a connection with the manager and that his thoughts are with us and not all the clubs he's being linked with give him them.
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16 Nov 2016, 10:19 PM
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Love that he messages BR after the France game to say he wanted to be on free kicks now.
Light-hearted, but shows a connection with the manager and that his thoughts are with us and not all the clubs he's being linked with I wish I had Moussa on What's App. We'd have some laugh together I think.
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16 Nov 2016, 10:41 PM
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According to his twitter timeline ( via Video Celts) he doesn`t even have boot deal,preferring to wear boots he finds comfy. He bears no resemblance to the modern young footballer we have come to expect, him and Tierney are a breath of fresh air.
He is a special player, cool as eff and supremely grounded.
As is Tierney as you point out.
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16 Nov 2016, 10:59 PM
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Andy Carroll cost Liverpool 30m on the back of a season in the championship. Think about that. I'm on my phone will give a more in depth reply later.
Gary Hooper scored more in the same season and went to Celtic for pennies in comparison. Carrolls transfer was a complete nonsense. Newcastle didn't need the money and Liverpool were panic buying after losing Torres. Caroll started the next season well, scored a few crackers iirc, then got his move. I'm not justifying it, it was a crazy fee but anyone that does well at EPL will get a big move.
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