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Celtic Park Improvements; What are the board planning
Topic Started: 6 Dec 2016, 02:22 PM (323,101 Views)
Larbertbhoy
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Our own wee light show on 67minutes is better than that.

Lawell needs to ask the fans to put their phones on flash mode if he is looking for something a bit fancier.

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6 May 2018, 09:06 AM
Why does even one seem to equate the new main stand with a huge increase in capacity?

The Board could easily redevelop it with a small increase in capacity with the rest of the new area going towards more corporate / hospitality boxes, Kerrydale Bar type zones, better changing rooms and arrival areas (would satisfy the pishy UEFA rule, not that the SFA would ever put us forward anyway)
I actually think the interiors of the old stand are really good.
Are you 75? :ph43r:
It seems massive to him.
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11 May 2018, 07:03 AM
Great investments that will help to buy players way into the future.

These are the foundations that will help us dominate at home for years to come and build our capability to compete in Europe despite the TV money fiddle by the bigger nations. We can spend all our time moaning about this or do something that counteracts it by getting income into the club via match day revenue.

The whole experience of Celtic Park is changing and getting kids to go continues to get easier. My 7y/o nephew loves the hour before the game at the Celtic Way, watching the Green Brigade and doing the huddle. He is starting to get the football part of it but it is an aside for now which he is growing in to. He only really cares about KT and Moussa for now. He got to take a couple of friends to one of the most boring games of the season and they still talk about it as though they had been to Seville, they can’t wait to get back to a couple of games next year.

Things like the light show will make this an even easier sell to kids who will maybe spend 10s of thousands over the years following the club.

Kids don’t get into football because of great football, they don’t even understand what great football is. They get hooked through other things, for me it was feeling part of something with adults which then became a love of King Kenny and then a love for Celtic that will last a lifetime. At the time there wasn’t much else to do so it is what you done, the options today for kids are totally different and football needs to work harder to attract and keep their attention.

Granted £2.3m spent on another player might get us a few extra points or entertainment, but tike consumables it will be gone when it’s gone. We need to strike the balance between the long and short term passing the marshmallow test as often as we can.

I’m sure Fergus heard the argument for success ‘now’ every time he made a long term investment. We are enjoying what we are now because 25 years ago someone delayed our gratification. If that meant Rangers getting 9 in a row so be it, it was all about Celtic’s future.

If we can keep adding little layers of enjoyment to the day for all we will continue to find ways of getting money into the club that doesn’t just feel like we are having our pockets emptied because we fear our rivals may spend more. It should be something we want to do rather than something we fear not doing.

Hopefully more investments coming that pay themselves back over and over continuing to fund a virtuous cycle.







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I know nothing about the costs of installing such a lighting system, but I'd guess that the quoted figure might also include some other small bits of structural repair/cosmetic work that needs to be done on the stadium. It's all worth doing anyway, we need to remember that playing at Celtic Park is one of the intangible things that persuades players to sign for us. The stadium's one of our selling points.
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11 May 2018, 08:35 AM
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11 May 2018, 07:03 AM
Great investments that will help to buy players way into the future.

These are the foundations that will help us dominate at home for years to come and build our capability to compete in Europe despite the TV money fiddle by the bigger nations. We can spend all our time moaning about this or do something that counteracts it by getting income into the club via match day revenue.

The whole experience of Celtic Park is changing and getting kids to go continues to get easier. My 7y/o nephew loves the hour before the game at the Celtic Way, watching the Green Brigade and doing the huddle. He is starting to get the football part of it but it is an aside for now which he is growing in to. He only really cares about KT and Moussa for now. He got to take a couple of friends to one of the most boring games of the season and they still talk about it as though they had been to Seville, they can’t wait to get back to a couple of games next year.

Things like the light show will make this an even easier sell to kids who will maybe spend 10s of thousands over the years following the club.

Kids don’t get into football because of great football, they don’t even understand what great football is. They get hooked through other things, for me it was feeling part of something with adults which then became a love of King Kenny and then a love for Celtic that will last a lifetime. At the time there wasn’t much else to do so it is what you done, the options today for kids are totally different and football needs to work harder to attract and keep their attention.

Granted £2.3m spent on another player might get us a few extra points or entertainment, but tike consumables it will be gone when it’s gone. We need to strike the balance between the long and short term passing the marshmallow test as often as we can.

I’m sure Fergus heard the argument for success ‘now’ every time he made a long term investment. We are enjoying what we are now because 25 years ago someone delayed our gratification. If that meant Rangers getting 9 in a row so be it, it was all about Celtic’s future.

If we can keep adding little layers of enjoyment to the day for all we will continue to find ways of getting money into the club that doesn’t just feel like we are having our pockets emptied because we fear our rivals may spend more. It should be something we want to do rather than something we fear not doing.

Hopefully more investments coming that pay themselves back over and over continuing to fund a virtuous cycle.







:thumbsup:

I know nothing about the costs of installing such a lighting system, but I'd guess that the quoted figure might also include some other small bits of structural repair/cosmetic work that needs to be done on the stadium. It's all worth doing anyway, we need to remember that playing at Celtic Park is one of the intangible things that persuades players to sign for us. The stadium's one of our selling points.
:thumbsup: Celtic don’t spend money unless there’s a compelling argument that it’ll benefit the club, especially on capital projects. They will be pretty certain this will save/make money.

It’s not going to impact the transfer budget, if such a thing exists. :lol:
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anyone who saw Arsene Wenger's last pre-match Press Conference for Arsenal will surely have made the connection between our imminent lighting/sound system upgrade and what's rolling down the tracks at an uncontrollable speed.

As someone on Twitter said, huns getting excited about a £6m budget for their new manager, and days later we spend £4m on new lamps. :lol:
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fatboab
11 May 2018, 09:51 AM
anyone who saw Arsene Wenger's last pre-match Press Conference for Arsenal will surely have made the connection between our imminent lighting/sound system upgrade and what's rolling down the tracks at an uncontrollable speed.

As someone on Twitter said, huns getting excited about a £6m budget for their new manager, and days later we spend £4m on new lamps. :lol:
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fatboab
11 May 2018, 09:51 AM
anyone who saw Arsene Wenger's last pre-match Press Conference for Arsenal will surely have made the connection between our imminent lighting/sound system upgrade and what's rolling down the tracks at an uncontrollable speed.

As someone on Twitter said, huns getting excited about a £6m budget for their new manager, and days later we spend £4m on new lamps. :lol:
What do you mean re: Wenger?
Non-football income, concerts, other sports - rugby etc?
I didn't see it.
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11 May 2018, 10:39 AM
fatboab
11 May 2018, 09:51 AM
anyone who saw Arsene Wenger's last pre-match Press Conference for Arsenal will surely have made the connection between our imminent lighting/sound system upgrade and what's rolling down the tracks at an uncontrollable speed.

As someone on Twitter said, huns getting excited about a £6m budget for their new manager, and days later we spend £4m on new lamps. :lol:
What do you mean re: Wenger?
Non-football income, concerts, other sports - rugby etc?
I didn't see it.
Wenger was asked about his future, and he said something like " I'll see you in a few years time when we play European League football at the weekends and domestic League football midweek"
It follows the same narrative we've heard from our Board recently, that a European League is coming .
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fatboab
11 May 2018, 11:07 AM
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11 May 2018, 10:39 AM
fatboab
11 May 2018, 09:51 AM
anyone who saw Arsene Wenger's last pre-match Press Conference for Arsenal will surely have made the connection between our imminent lighting/sound system upgrade and what's rolling down the tracks at an uncontrollable speed.

As someone on Twitter said, huns getting excited about a £6m budget for their new manager, and days later we spend £4m on new lamps. :lol:
What do you mean re: Wenger?
Non-football income, concerts, other sports - rugby etc?
I didn't see it.
Wenger was asked about his future, and he said something like " I'll see you in a few years time when we play European League football at the weekends and domestic League football midweek"
It follows the same narrative we've heard from our Board recently, that a European League is coming .
He also said the Premier League in England should be limited to 16 teams though, so I'd take what he's saying with a pinch of salt. I can really see 13 or 14 clubs in that environment voting to increase their chances of not being involved in that cash cow.

Even with the ECA effectively controlling the more important UEFA committees, a handful of top clubs cannot force UEFA to unilaterally insist on playing their competitions' games at the weekend at the expense of domestic competitions just like that.

With all the attendant bollocks around TV blackouts, it represents a restraint of trade for the 99% of clubs playing in Europe that won't qualify for a CL tournament. You simply cannot ask for a recreational sport watched Europe-wide in a domestic format by millions of people to move from the two days that the majority of them happen to have a day off. All to accommodate a tournament played by less than 0.1% of top tier clubs across the continent.

UEFA is a union of the national federations. The only benefit to the larger majority of its 55 members from making this move are a few greased palms from people who would vote it through. This should be, and will be, resisted at all costs.

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If we are gonna use something the same as Ajax surely there is a place for this:

http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/The+Fenian+Lamppost
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Forza
11 May 2018, 11:40 AM
fatboab
11 May 2018, 11:07 AM
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11 May 2018, 10:39 AM

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Wenger was asked about his future, and he said something like " I'll see you in a few years time when we play European League football at the weekends and domestic League football midweek"
It follows the same narrative we've heard from our Board recently, that a European League is coming .
He also said the Premier League in England should be limited to 16 teams though, so I'd take what he's saying with a pinch of salt. I can really see 13 or 14 clubs in that environment voting to increase their chances of not being involved in that cash cow.

Even with the ECA effectively controlling the more important UEFA committees, a handful of top clubs cannot force UEFA to unilaterally insist on playing their competitions' games at the weekend at the expense of domestic competitions just like that.

With all the attendant bollocks around TV blackouts, it represents a restraint of trade for the 99% of clubs playing in Europe that won't qualify for a CL tournament. You simply cannot ask for a recreational sport watched Europe-wide in a domestic format by millions of people to move from the two days that the majority of them happen to have a day off. All to accommodate a tournament played by less than 0.1% of top tier clubs across the continent.

UEFA is a union of the national federations. The only benefit to the larger majority of its 55 members from making this move are a few greased palms from people who would vote it through. This should be, and will be, resisted at all costs.

agree.

not sure about the formatting/ game times, but it's generally accepted that discussions about a European League are well under way, and we're on the inside looking out.
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11 May 2018, 11:07 AM

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He also said the Premier League in England should be limited to 16 teams though, so I'd take what he's saying with a pinch of salt. I can really see 13 or 14 clubs in that environment voting to increase their chances of not being involved in that cash cow.

Even with the ECA effectively controlling the more important UEFA committees, a handful of top clubs cannot force UEFA to unilaterally insist on playing their competitions' games at the weekend at the expense of domestic competitions just like that.

With all the attendant bollocks around TV blackouts, it represents a restraint of trade for the 99% of clubs playing in Europe that won't qualify for a CL tournament. You simply cannot ask for a recreational sport watched Europe-wide in a domestic format by millions of people to move from the two days that the majority of them happen to have a day off. All to accommodate a tournament played by less than 0.1% of top tier clubs across the continent.

UEFA is a union of the national federations. The only benefit to the larger majority of its 55 members from making this move are a few greased palms from people who would vote it through. This should be, and will be, resisted at all costs.

agree.

not sure about the formatting/ game times, but it's generally accepted that discussions about a European League are well under way, and we're on the inside looking out.
I'd hope not. Lawwell is on the ECA Board.
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A brilliant post and spot on :thumbsup:

My dad took me to the football (Dumbarton at Boghead) as a wee lawdie and it was all about a wee afternoon out in the beginning. The interest in the game came later. My early games (and indeed now) at Celtic Park were about the atmosphere that went along with the quality football. I still sometimes get the hairs standing up on the back of my neck when you climb the stairs and suddenly there is the ground all green and bathed in the floodlights. So this to me is a very wise investment - bring it on.
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Upgrading a lighting system may well save money. I done the exercise 3 years ago at my work.

We had 100 50W lamps running 7 hours a day
50*100=5000W or 5kW. 5x7=35. I was using 35kW hours per day. It costs (give or take about 18p per kW hour) so 35*0.18=£6.30

that was £6.30 per day just to light my premises. Over a year - say 200 days - it cost £1260 in lighting costs (this does not take into account the lamps cost themselves and they popped all the time)

I replaced them all with 5W LEDs. It was about £12 per fitting + lamp + £800 to an electrician to change them all. Total £2000. Running costs £126 per year. The capital outlay was saved in two years and after that, it was all gravy. I've only had to replace about 6 bulbs in the last 3 years as well.
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Maybe the lights have laser accuracy and can be used against opposing strikers by temporarily blinding them as they attempt to shoot.
Don't shine at the shooter, la.
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fatboab
11 May 2018, 09:51 AM
anyone who saw Arsene Wenger's last pre-match Press Conference for Arsenal will surely have made the connection between our imminent lighting/sound system upgrade and what's rolling down the tracks at an uncontrollable speed.

As someone on Twitter said, huns getting excited about a £6m budget for their new manager, and days later we spend £4m on new lamps. :lol:
What do you mean re: Wenger?
Non-football income, concerts, other sports - rugby etc?
I didn't see it.
Wenger was asked about his future, and he said something like " I'll see you in a few years time when we play European League football at the weekends and domestic League football midweek"
It follows the same narrative we've heard from our Board recently, that a European League is coming .
Ok mate,thanks.
Probably tied in with the entire upgrade, regeneration around the stadium then. Does make us look top class & meets more UEFA criteria (probably).
The hotel particularly seems to tie in with a European league imo.

Certainly fits with our board strategy, especially with Peter on these boards ECA etc..
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ronny_is_not_da_man
11 May 2018, 11:43 AM
If we are gonna use something the same as Ajax surely there is a place for this:

http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/The+Fenian+Lamppost
:clap: :lol: :thumbsup:
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ronny_is_not_da_man
11 May 2018, 11:43 AM
If we are gonna use something the same as Ajax surely there is a place for this:

http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/The+Fenian+Lamppost
did you no watch the ajax videos :arrr:

WE WILL HAVE THE FENIAN DISCO BALL :kevtic: :chuffed:
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10 May 2018, 03:39 PM
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4m quid on the park? Rather we got a right back or a Centre half instead of fancy effing lights.

Once the fancy lights are really bedded in and performing we're going to sell them on to Southampton for £12m quid though
Aye, but there will be a sell-on for when Liverpool buys them for $500m.

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I know the Hun on Twitter love to amuse themselves with stories that the stadium is falling down. Truth be told, though, I do think that a quarter of a century into its construction it is definitely starting to look very tired outside. I think it could do with investment in that area rather than a light show. The metal on the surround of the stadium looked very good initially but 20 odd years later is starting to look weather beaten and ugly.
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