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Celtic Park Improvements; What are the board planning
Topic Started: 6 Dec 2016, 02:22 PM (323,133 Views)
Forza
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stevie21
7 Jun 2017, 04:28 PM
Forza
7 Jun 2017, 02:21 PM
stevie21
7 Jun 2017, 01:56 PM

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The bread and butter of any league season for Celtic are 38 league games split home and away, anything between 6 and 12 European games split home and away, and a handful of cup ties, unevenly split home and away as per cup draws, that maybe five times out of ten will lead to a cup final.

In the last six years we've got to five domestic cup finals out of 12. In that time the club has played 320 competitive games, roughly half at home. An enormous 1.5% of these games have been cup finals.

It sounds like what you are saying is that, as a potential future strategy, Celtic should completely ignore the potentially much greater revenue stream that comes with expanding the stadium (and hospitality) for the 95%+ of games that are home Celtic fixtures, because of some worries over who'll get Cup Final tickets, on the 8 or 9 times per decade we'll get to one. :lol: That is simply bonkers.
I've said elsewhere that I don't think the stadium needs expanding, but I don't think I've put it into the context of my replies here that you've quoted. I've merely pointed out a couple of contradictions, if I can call them that, so I've not said that they're a basis for not expanding the stadium. Just that if we do, it comes at a cost that might not be immediately apparent.

I like the fact that you're calculating total games, potential income for each etc. to try to quantify the benefit of this increased capacity as it shows you're putting thought into it. You are also putting words into my mouth though. I've said eff all about what I think our future strategy should be. Only that if we're so successful that we can afford to expand and fill our stadium capacity, that we get more income, but we also then get accustomed to getting 70,000 home fans at a cup game at Celtic Park and of those, only 19,000 will get a ticket for Hampden. Compared to the 19,000 that attended the most recent game against Aberdeen, there might also be a larger proportion of corporate seats.

As before, none of this is a reason not to expand our own capacity if we're certain we'll make the money back in a reasonable amount of time - it's just a cost that comes with it that might not immediately spring to mind.
The stadium doesn't need expanding as such, I've acknowledged that. We clearly don't need thousands of additional seats, but improving the main stand side would inevitably come with a rise in the number of seats due to its current configuration.

However it certainly does need eventual major improvement on the main stand side. Both structural and cosmetic.

Merely replacing the main stand roof to get rid of the massive stanchions holding it up and the existing roof's undercarriage would free up thousands of seats from restricted view. Not an insignificant undertaking in its own right, obviously. Bringing the main stand up to the same level as the BOTTOM tier of the rest of the stadium should also really be a minimum aim.

I don't think a further case needs to be made for better hospitality either. There are numerous examples from elsewhere showing the revenue uplift, all of which would benefit the club, and probably offset pricing in other parts of the stadium, especially for an extension of safe standing.
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Does anyone know if there's been any work done on the big screens? At the end of the season the one that worked/didn't work was an embarrassment.
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searcher52
28 Jun 2017, 05:28 PM
Does anyone know if there's been any work done on the big screens? At the end of the season the one that worked/didn't work was an embarrassment.
That one has a history of not working.

They're supposed to be getting replaced.
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28 Jun 2017, 05:31 PM
searcher52
28 Jun 2017, 05:28 PM
Does anyone know if there's been any work done on the big screens? At the end of the season the one that worked/didn't work was an embarrassment.
That one has a history of not working.

They're supposed to be getting replaced.
Any idea of timescale? They kind of bring down the tone a bit.
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searcher52
28 Jun 2017, 05:32 PM
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28 Jun 2017, 05:31 PM
searcher52
28 Jun 2017, 05:28 PM
Does anyone know if there's been any work done on the big screens? At the end of the season the one that worked/didn't work was an embarrassment.
That one has a history of not working.

They're supposed to be getting replaced.
Any idea of timescale? They kind of bring down the tone a bit.
No idea, hopefully the now.
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searcher52
28 Jun 2017, 05:32 PM
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28 Jun 2017, 05:31 PM
searcher52
28 Jun 2017, 05:28 PM
Does anyone know if there's been any work done on the big screens? At the end of the season the one that worked/didn't work was an embarrassment.
That one has a history of not working.

They're supposed to be getting replaced.
Any idea of timescale? They kind of bring down the tone a bit.
They're being replaced next season. New LED adboards in this season
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7 Jun 2017, 02:00 PM
richiebhoy1888
7 Jun 2017, 12:30 PM
The Parken Stadium is decent example of what could be done .All 4 stands are the same size and symmetrical but one stand behind the goals only has a bottom tier of normal seats, the area above which obviously would be the top tier is entirely executive boxes . I'd post a pic but don't know how to 😳
I think you mean this?


Parken Stadium



Edit to add link - properly!
There wouldn't be a windae left in it after Callum McGregor has had some pre match shooting practice :lol:
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Bryan67
28 Jun 2017, 05:41 PM
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28 Jun 2017, 05:32 PM
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28 Jun 2017, 05:31 PM

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Any idea of timescale? They kind of bring down the tone a bit.
They're being replaced next season. New LED adboards in this season
Aye just what the fans want - sexier adverts!
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I passed the stadium two Sundays ago and the LL screen was gone..
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Sure I seen the question asked on twitter to someone connected to celtic about screens being fixed or replaced and answer was fixed.
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Wailer
28 Jun 2017, 05:39 PM
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28 Jun 2017, 05:32 PM
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28 Jun 2017, 05:31 PM

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Any idea of timescale? They kind of bring down the tone a bit.
No idea, hopefully the now.
The recent pictures I've seen of the pitch upgrades has shown the big screens lowered to seat level. Some form of work is going on with them.
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29 Jun 2017, 11:40 AM
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28 Jun 2017, 05:39 PM
searcher52
28 Jun 2017, 05:32 PM

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No idea, hopefully the now.
The recent pictures I've seen of the pitch upgrades has shown the big screens lowered to seat level. Some form of work is going on with them.
hooking them up to a kodi box i reckon.
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The Lisbon lions one has been a shampooer for some time. Surely these things are cheap to replace. My TV was 200 quid, few years back it would have been 2 grand. Lawell, get it fkn sorted you caaaaaaaraht.
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My dad is now shampoo scared of walking up to the top.
I suppose he'll need to move.
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searcher52
28 Jun 2017, 11:17 PM
Bryan67
28 Jun 2017, 05:41 PM
searcher52
28 Jun 2017, 05:32 PM

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They're being replaced next season. New LED adboards in this season
Aye just what the fans want - sexier adverts!
Sexier adverts = increased revenue.

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Bryan67
28 Jun 2017, 05:41 PM
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28 Jun 2017, 05:32 PM
Wailer
28 Jun 2017, 05:31 PM

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Any idea of timescale? They kind of bring down the tone a bit.
They're being replaced next season. New LED adboards in this season
Weren't the screens another great idea of our CEO's?

They were the only type of screen in the world, that were modular (or something) and could be taken down and used at other venues which would bring additional revenue streams :boik: to the company, when they weren't in use during the close season...

I seem to remember T in the Park, being cited as a possible customer for these fantastic new media display units?

Turns out they were the only type in the world, for a reason.
The wrong one...

Or did I just dream that up, in my micro-dose?
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Wailer
28 Jun 2017, 05:39 PM
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28 Jun 2017, 05:32 PM
Wailer
28 Jun 2017, 05:31 PM

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Any idea of timescale? They kind of bring down the tone a bit.
No idea, hopefully the now.
The screens aren't getting replaced for the new season,the stadium manager said on twitter we're looking for new screens similar to the new Hampden screens but that won't be for this new season
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Prolly 'cause they were so darned expensive (not to mention, crap), and they aint been amortised aff the balance sheet, yet?

#bonusball
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georgiesleftpeg
2 Jul 2017, 10:48 AM
Prolly 'cause they were so darned expensive (not to mention, crap), and they aint been amortised aff the balance sheet, yet?

#bonusball
Prolly? effing Prolly?


splob and now prolly, eff sake.
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OO0ohhhhErrrrr, don't pussyfoot around, whydoncha :arrr:

The overall point stands :)
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